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FORScan should work with the Focus? Also your link is dead, this is the correct link.
Sorry about the confusion, I meant to say it would be amazing if someone could make a tool like this for the S550; the tool in the link appears to be specific for the Focus.

I haven't tried FORScan yet, I didn't think it clearly called out various options like the FOCCCUS tool does?
 

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Sorry about the confusion, I meant to say it would be amazing if someone could make a tool like this for the S550; the tool in the link appears to be specific for the Focus.

I haven't tried FORScan yet, I didn't think it clearly called out various options like the FOCCCUS tool does?
no, but it does the same stuff as far as I can tell. Just a little more work. If forscan was open source I would give it a try, but no time for a new program.
 

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no, but it does the same stuff (except ECU) as far as I can tell. Just a little more work. If forscan was open source I would give it a try, but no time for a new program.
Shame, it would be more dummy-proof for people like me.
 

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Shame, it would be more dummy-proof for people like me.
there is a non-ASBUILT menu, but it has far less options. I believe if you can get in contact with forscan devs you can have them add the things we know work.
 

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there is a non-ASBUILT menu, but it has far less options. I believe if you can get in contact with forscan devs you can have them add the things we know work.
Right, it's kind of on us to get new stuff we find added to FORScan. Other models have far more easily-changed features (plain English options instead of hex editing.)

Is anyone doing this now? (Working with the devs.)
 

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Right, it's kind of on us to get new stuff we find added to FORScan. Other models have far more easily-changed features (plain English options instead of hex editing.)

Is anyone doing this now? (Working with the devs.)
just shot them an email to see if we can get them added.
 

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Can anyone screen shot the non-Asbuilt portion? I'm curious. I take it that it provides a more simplified "on-off" control of various functions so we aren't constantly modifying hex to make it work.
 
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Can anyone screen shot the non-Asbuilt portion? I'm curious. I take it that it provides a more simplified "on-off" control of various functions so we aren't constantly modifying hex to make it work.
I can do that, but its in sections, so what section do you want, and yes its limited due to time taken to figure out what it does. I can take a shot in hex and in lamen terms so you can see the difference.

Screenshot from a Previous thread I started
 

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Can anyone screen shot the non-Asbuilt portion? I'm curious. I take it that it provides a more simplified "on-off" control of various functions so we aren't constantly modifying hex to make it work.
don't have it connected to car right now, but here is a cap from the forscan forums. it would look similar to this. (see attached)
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This is extremely interesting. Everytime I'm in this thread I get a little man wood and then I come back to it and get even more intrigued. I work in Data for an automotive manufacturer so I love this stuff.
 

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Also, doing some research, and y'all are welcome to school me here, but it appears if we can get ahold of a DBC database file we will be able to convert the hexadecimal to a traditional text format that will be easier to understand. I'm tempted to pull some strings at Ford and see if I can find it from someone I know up in Detroit...
 

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Also, doing some research, and y'all are welcome to school me here, but it appears if we can get ahold of a DBC database file we will be able to convert the hexadecimal to a traditional text format that will be easier to understand. I'm tempted to pull some strings at Ford and see if I can find it from someone I know up in Detroit...
I think what we really only need is to know the significance of each byte position in the string. The name of the memory address is just a bonus to make it easier for us to follow w/o the need for cross-referencing every address.

I deal with this stuff all day at work (for other stuff) but it's basically like this:



The name of 0726-13-01 isn't really critical if you know what the bytes do.
 
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It would be amazing if someone could whip up a tool like this one for the Focus; it actually spells out what the features are: http://http://www.jamessimpson.co.uk/focccus-central-ecu-config-edit-elm327/
Focus, Escape, and a few other vehicles mainly in Europe don't use As-Built Data for the BCM. They use what is called CCC aka Central Configuration. Instead of having programming in each module. The car is centrally programmed and all the modules read from that.

Ford IDS has all the CCC values and that program basically pulled the IDS database.

Wouldn't work on most north America cars except those mentioned.
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