Mileage before modding?

[moodywizard]

The FRPP stages are okay if you are not going to change anything, you cant even simply "upgrade" from stage 2 to stage 3. Something to think about. They are only useful for drive train warranty purposes, but then again what is the percentage of people damaging drivetrain with NA bolt ons? Imagine has to be low.

I have stage 2 which I regret now, especially considering I just ordered 18 ported mani and headers haha I purchased extended warranty mainly for non drive train things such as AC evap, etc. (The things more likely to fail).

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[2015Etrac]

The FRPP stages are okay if you are not going to change anything, you cant even simply "upgrade" from stage 2 to stage 3. Something to think about. They are only useful for drive train warranty purposes, but then again what is the percentage of people damaging drivetrain with NA bolt ons? Imagine has to be low.

I have stage 2 which I regret now, especially considering I just ordered 18 ported mani and headers haha I purchased extended warranty mainly for non drive train things such as AC evap, etc. (The things more likely to fail).

I plan to get the extended warranty for the same reasons. With my premium car it would be nice to have the SYNC 3, heated/cooled seats, adaptive cruise control, A/C, and all those others items covered. I plan to do an intake manifold, either the 18' or a GT350, so the stage 3 would be OK, but after reading the Power Pack warranty I'll probably be better off saving some money and getting an after market tune and a ported 18' manifold. I already have a CAI, so I can have both the manifold and tune for about $1k or less. It seems like the Power Pack warranties are only worth it if you install them on a relatively new car since it begins at the date of the vehicles purchase and not the installation date of the power pack.

 

[Defender46]

Had shocks, springs, x pipe and axle backs at around 600 miles, whipple and opg at 1800, then switched to coilovers with complete stop the hop kit at 1900 miles. Now at 3800 miles full airlift kit, carbon driveshaft, about to pull the trigger on long tubes. Had the car about 14 months.
Car isn't a daily and I felt comfortable/safe running the whipple setup on their tune, feel like a 17 was late enough in the generation of the coyote that it was a proven engine.

 

[2015Etrac]

Had shocks, springs, x pipe and axle backs at around 600 miles, whipple and opg at 1800, then switched to coilovers with complete stop the hop kit at 1900 miles. Now at 3800 miles full airlift kit, carbon driveshaft, about to pull the trigger on long tubes. Had the car about 14 months.
Car isn't a daily and I felt comfortable/safe running the whipple setup on their tune, feel like a 17 was late enough in the generation of the coyote that it was a proven engine.

Yeah, it seems like the 2nd gen Coyote might be the most reliable of the 3, at least from what I've read. My car is a 2016, an earlier build, but still well enough into the production that it should be fine, it's been running great so far. I've been doing all the suspension, brake, and cosmetic stuff since I'm not too concerned about them warranty wise. If I hold off on the power mods I might look into a carbon fiber driveshaft, some lighter 2 piece rotors, and maybe a set of summer wheels/tires for the nicer weather. I'm trying to put together a nice daily driver setup that will handle some autocross and occasional track events. Now, if the car wasn't my daily driver, and I had the money, I would definitely throw on a supercharger. At least if I ever do save up for a supercharger I will already have the suspension and brake stuff on the car.

 

[BmacIL]

Yeah, it seems like the 2nd gen Coyote might be the most reliable of the 3, at least from what I've read. My car is a 2016, an earlier build, but still well enough into the production that it should be fine, it's been running great so far. I've been doing all the suspension, brake, and cosmetic stuff since I'm not too concerned about them warranty wise. If I hold off on the power mods I might look into a carbon fiber driveshaft, some lighter 2 piece rotors, and maybe a set of summer wheels/tires for the nicer weather. I'm trying to put together a nice daily driver setup that will handle some autocross and occasional track events. Now, if the car wasn't my daily driver, and I had the money, I would definitely throw on a supercharger. At least if I ever do save up for a supercharger I will already have the suspension and brake stuff on the car.

You can go back and find posts of mine in '17 saying that the Gen 2 will be the sought after one by modders for a long time for its durability. Gives up a little to the gen 3 on power from the compression ratio, and to a lesser extent, the added DI, but more bulletproof. I wasn't worried about it either, because the philosophy of the gen 2 was "take everything we learned from the gen 1 and add Boss forged stuff and heads to make it super stout".

 

[Zelek]

You can go back and find posts of mine in '17 saying that the Gen 2 will be the sought after one by modders for a long time for its durability. Gives up a little to the gen 3 on power from the compression ratio, and to a lesser extent, the added DI, but more bulletproof. I wasn't worried about it either, because the philosophy of the gen 2 was "take everything we learned from the gen 1 and add Boss forged stuff and heads to make it super stout".

After seeing the many threads on the 18's engine, I'm glad I pulled the trigger on my '17 right before they ended production. I've had nothing but a great experience with my car outside of the passenger door being misaligned when I got it. Aside from that even with the mods, the car has been stellar.

 

[2015Etrac]

You can go back and find posts of mine in '17 saying that the Gen 2 will be the sought after one by modders for a long time for its durability. Gives up a little to the gen 3 on power from the compression ratio, and to a lesser extent, the added DI, but more bulletproof. I wasn't worried about it either, because the philosophy of the gen 2 was "take everything we learned from the gen 1 and add Boss forged stuff and heads to make it super stout".

Yep. I've really never seen any bad threads about the Gen 2 engines or heard of any major design flaws with them. Not to say the others are bad, but I've just seen less issues on the Mustang boards for the gen 2. Would you say the Gen 2 is closer to the Gen 1 in design or the Boss 302?

 

[BmacIL]

Yep. I've really never seen any bad threads about the Gen 2 engines or heard of any major design flaws with them. Not to say the others are bad, but I've just seen less issues on the Mustang boards for the gen 2. Would you say the Gen 2 is closer to the Gen 1 in design or the Boss 302?

Boss:
https://performanceparts.ford.com/download/PDFS/FPP_Gen_2_Coyote_Technical_Reference_2-16.pdf

 

[udcvsean]

FWIW my ‘17 Mustang GT had the ticking issue and scoring in three cylinders. Ford replaced the shortblock but I got approved and am waiting on my buyback replacement.

 

[1crazymach]

2.9 miles when dealer installed my Whipple. Does that count?

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