Newbie to the modding

[RoninRed]

So I'm not very mechanically inclined, I know enough to get me by and I figure I'd ask you all for a second opinion before running off with my cash...

I want to install the Hellion Twin Turbo kit. It says it keeps all factory functinos: AC, all electronics essentially... I'm going to trust that's right unless someone says otherwise.

My major concern is that adding upwards of 200 WHP could have unforeseen effects on other mechanical parts. I've heard of clutch discs shattering, engines blowing up, rear axles snapping on takeoff at the track... What things do I need to account for to make sure my ride can handle the power I'm forcing down its engine? I'm talking parts wise, what do I need to install/replace?

Side note: Anyone figured out how to get the VAC gauge on the PP to replicate the BOOST gauge on the Ecos?

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[daltron]

I would imagine you would want stronger half shafts and clutch (RXT?). Past that, oil pump gears, crankshaft gears, and harmonic balancer. All that should give you a real good time until you want to build your motor and really push it. I'll let the much more experienced guys chime in for this stuff.

 

[Road Dog]

Even after you do what Dalton suggests you still have to tame the axle hop and get the power to the ground so there are suspension items to replace and then wheels and tires with lots more width and grip.

 

[RoninRed]

I appreciate the replies guys, I'm going with TSW wheels and MPSS for the summer with Conti DSW06 for the winter. If there are any name brand recommendations you all know of, that would help me find a good place to start, I'm trying to avoid cheap parts for good parts at cheap value lol

 

[daltron]

MMR for the engine parts.
McLeod RXT for the clutch.
Half shafts... no personal recommendations.
Suspension: Steeda or BMR.

 

[MyLilPony]

So I'm not very mechanically inclined, I know enough to get me by and I figure I'd ask you all for a second opinion before running off with my cash...

I want to install the Hellion Twin Turbo kit. It says it keeps all factory functinos: AC, all electronics essentially... I'm going to trust that's right unless someone says otherwise.

My major concern is that adding upwards of 200 WHP could have unforeseen effects on other mechanical parts. I've heard of clutch discs shattering, engines blowing up, rear axles snapping on takeoff at the track... What things do I need to account for to make sure my ride can handle the power I'm forcing down its engine? I'm talking parts wise, what do I need to install/replace?

Side note: Anyone figured out how to get the VAC gauge on the PP to replicate the BOOST gauge on the Ecos?

Check out the boost section on the forum, lots of info there.

Look at replacing OPG, and crank sprocket as well maybe even the damper. Suspension will be a must to keep hop down and new rubber on the rear is a must. Axles etc. others have mentioned and as for the boost gauge question you can replace it but i would go with something like the nGauge and the plug in boost gauge so you can log it along with other relevant data.

Twins install is not easy so keep that in mind, header swaps on this car are a mother $%&* on your back. Plus you will need to tap for oil lines etc...

 

[RoninRed]

10k for the turbo, and at least another 10k to make sure the car can handle the power... man I shoulda just bought a 350r lol

 

[daltron]

10k for the turbo, and at least another 10k to make sure the car can handle the power... man I shoulda just bought a 350r lol

Turbo should be 9K (slightly more with blankets, boost controller, etc). Motor parts under $1,000 but labor for turbo and parts... ?

 

[Mikeiscoo2]

Honestly it just depends upon what your hp goal is. Are you happy with just 200 more hp? If so 580-620 whp won't really just flat out destroy anything unless you launch it at the track. So a procharger might be more up your alley. And with the money saved you could go ahead and get all the other fun stuff along the way

 

[RoninRed]

New wheels and tires 2.3k, springs roughly .3k, clutch and line .4k, headers .5k, tune .5k, various other engine parts 1k, after labor for install on the 10k turbo (s&h included), I'm looking at roughly 16k realistically. I rounded up lol.

But what's 4K compared to a 350r when I bought my GT for roughly the gap difference.

And I like the benefits of a turbo vs a supercharger, the MPG kick is nice, with a decent time I can get 5-8mpg city higher and almost 10-12 mpg more on highway with one according to hellion. Of course if it was just the power I wanted I would be going with a supercharger.

 

[mumbles]

[MENTION=7175]Ronin[/MENTION], A lot of the supporting mods you install on a boosted vehicle may depend on how you intend to use the vehicle. For example, if you intend to drag the vehicle often, then you will need to spend more upgrading clutches and drive shafts than if you just plan to drive it aggressively on the street.

 

[MyLilPony]

New wheels and tires 2.3k, springs roughly .3k, clutch and line .4k, headers .5k, tune .5k, various other engine parts 1k, after labor for install on the 10k turbo (s&h included), I'm looking at roughly 16k realistically. I rounded up lol.

But what's 4K compared to a 350r when I bought my GT for roughly the gap difference.

And I like the benefits of a turbo vs a supercharger, the MPG kick is nice, with a decent time I can get 5-8mpg city higher and almost 10-12 mpg more on highway with one according to hellion. Of course if it was just the power I wanted I would be going with a supercharger.

Two totally different cars. A turbo GT would outrun a 350 with out any issues. And it doesn't seem like you are going to track the car so the 350 wouldn't be used for what it is meant for; road course. So can't really compare the two. Essentially you would only be getting the 350 for the styling since track days don't seem to be in your plans.

Your gas mileage doesn't go up when you go turbo...don't believe that. Plenty of supercharged cars get as good of gas mileage as before boosted, most do not because why would you not want to have fun?

Being a turbo guy personally, all my previous cars were turbo, I will be going Procharger this time around. I don't want to have boost spike to deal with, oil lines, shaft wobble issues, another nightmare install, blah blah. Turbo'd are fun and I love them but I want something a little easier on the install and maintenance.

Oh and don't let the turbo guys tell you how cool being able to adjust boost on the fly is because you can do the same with a Procharger or paxton. I plan on pulling down and waste gating my Procharger so I can adjust on the fly.

 

[beefcake]

with all f/i you should plan on "maybe" having to upgrade other parts due to the power. not always, but you should be prepared, half shafts, clutch would be the main 2 concerns as was mentioned

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