Just a heads up

[GT Pony]

pretty sure wrapping the fob in aluminum foil will act as a faraday cage.

Definitely will work - a Faraday cage is just a totally enclosed metal barrier. Put the FOB inside a zip-lock bag first so the foil doesn't scratch it up.

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[K-Roll302]

I don't think you can drive car for more than 10 or 20 meters, correct me if I'm wrong. Don't know for sure how much meters you can drive (or if you can drive).

Btw, can someone pinpoint what to search on ebay? My future father-in-law has Focus ST 2013, and we are curious to get that item to test on his car ...i'm thinking he will get a pouch soon

Excellent thread :cheers:

I already did that test last summer. Had my friend drive my 2014 Focus ST from one end of a parking lot to another. He went well over 300 feet(about 91 meters) and the car didn't shut off or anything. Hell, he started the car as I was standing beside it. I have no doubt ge could have driven it until he ran out of gas.

Now, you can't start the car if the key isn't right next to the car or inside it, but if it was running and someone drove it away, I haven't a clue how far they'd get, but 300ft is still too far in my book. :tsk:

 

[croyde]

It is ridiculous that car manufacturers are churning out vehicles that can be so easily stolen thanks to tech that we don't really need.

When I first saw the fob I was more concerned about having to carry such a bulky object in my trouser pocket rather than my nice slim 1998 BMW key.

Now I have to remember to leave my Mustang fob, whenever it finally arrives, in a foil bag or a microwave wherever I go.

Bit of a joke isn't it, especially as it's 2015.

The really big problem will be getting insurance here in London, UK, as there are various cars, including Range Rovers, that you can no longer get cover for as they are so easy to steal. Insurance is eye wateringly expensive if you live in the Greater London area and I expect to get raped when it's time to get a quote for the Mustang, but I certainly don't won't to find that no company will insure me.

Maybe my desire to own the newest American Muscle car will force me to move out of the city

 

[benanderson89]

Maybe my desire to own the newest American Muscle car will force me to move out of the city

With my brief experiences of London I'm surprised you've not moved out sooner!

Come North, its cheap and has lots of nice roads. :cheers:;)

 

[aschueler]

One of the advantages to living out in the country... There's a gate and several hundred yards of driveway before you get to my house. And our home security is a donkey, a large german shepherd, and a shotgun.

 

[Vile_the_Bastage]

Tell us how it works out, after seeing this I am going to get one, I found a good one for 32 dollars, but if this work, I rather spend a little less if possible.

Ok, the Faraday cage I ordered from Amazon came in today. Little green pouch that closes with Velcro and can fit approximately two key fobs. I placed my key fob into the pouch while on my key ring and still attached to the rest of my keys (it's key ring hanging partially out of the bag with the Velcro enclosed around it). Car will not open or start while in pouch. Pouch is small enough to be carried in pocket or folded into wallet, so overall I'm satisfied.

Going to buy a second one for my wife's key chain.

 

[PonyGrrrl]

Ok, the Faraday cage I ordered from Amazon came in today. Little green pouch that closes with Velcro and can fit approximately two key fobs. I placed my key fob into the pouch while on my key ring and still attached to the rest of my keys (it's key ring hanging partially out of the bag with the Velcro enclosed around it). Car will not open or start while in pouch. Pouch is small enough to be carried in pocket or folded into wallet, so overall I'm satisfied.

Going to buy a second one for my wife's key chain.

Which one did you get?

 

[Vile_the_Bastage]

Which one did you get?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Y3FLYWG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

Check out the link above. This is exactly what I bought and it works great. Door won't open with me next to the car; it can seal around your key fob while it is still attached to other keys; you can take it off and easily fold it into a pocket or wallet.

Little pricey for what it is... unless of course your car get's stolen...

Then $16 is chump change.

 

[Poppacapp]

Just order one of them. Better safe than sorry.

 

[Renner]

 

[jtmat]

Real joke is you will NEVER know you were right... in this case.

 

[humster21]

just purchased

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LJMCI7G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AG68E2FPT4M0Q

Bought two of these and they work well. While shut and beside the car It won't let me open the door. got one for my spare and the other fits neatly in my pocket.

 

[pt73]

Thieves programming their own key in 15 seconds is the worrying bit?:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/how-crooks-can-steal-your-car-without-key

No better off than the old days of hot wiring or starting with a screwdriver?

I haven't yet bought a new car, but if I had I'd be looking for Ford to stop all this rubbish.

[ame]

Defense in depth -- add multiple safeguards (disclock etc?...)

 

[73MachI]

Yeah this has been all over the web. Many autos with keyless entry using active fobs are vulnerable to this hack. IIRC there has even been word of class action suits.

The solution AFAIK is to use the aforementioned 'Faraday cage'.

 

[speedfrk]

Still no way to turn off the proximity thing? I guess if you could, then the car wouldn't start either. I will say this, though. Insurance on my 2015 Mustang is cheaper than on my 2012 Civic. Honda's are still the most stolen cars I think, but the Mustang has got to be worth 3-4X what the Civic is.

Just because you aren't paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.

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