Intake Manifold Swap?

[Kayd77]

It's a major downgrade for your car, why would you want to swap it in?

Well it isn’t for me personally I have the parts and someone wants to buy that part as a replacement for their 2016 upper intake manifold after they got into an accident plus I’m including a bunch of other factory replacement parts for them as well so I just wanna know if it’s compatible before I go ahead and sell it to them

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[K4fxd]

It will bolt on but he will need a tune to make it run properly. There was a design change in 15. The 15 and up use valves in the manifold to reduce emissions at part throttle. They are called Charge Motion Control Valves, or CMCV.

 

[WildHorse]

It will bolt on

Not without modifying. Gen 1 Intake has ribbing that interferes with Gen 2 Head specifically at the extended pad from the intake port on the Gen 2 head.. These ribbings can be removed from the Gen 1 intake.

 

[Racin4ds]

The 18 truck manifold is on the car and it makes the engine feel like a big block. I can light the tires in 3rd at 30 Mph.

After I do some real testing I'll post my results in a new thread.

Sorry, I know its an old post, but did you ever finish this up? I love the idea of tons of torque on a street car and want to swap a 18-19 manifold on to my 2015. Does it require tuning though?

 

[K4fxd]

Yes it requires tuning. Most of the tuners blow it off but @Wengerd Performance might be willing to tune one.

If you spend most of your time below 3K it is a great manifold. It needs to shift at 6800. I like it in the 6R80. You can set the shift schedule where it does not shift every time you press the gas. I can ease into the throttle at 1500 in 6th and it does not lug, has a VTEC type kick around 3300.

It is a nice street manifold and it does give up upper RPM HP compared to a GT350 manifold. I still pull 392 chargers on a roll.

 

[Racin4ds]

Thanks for the reply Dan, I was hoping I can bolt one on and not have to tune... got the intake for nothing but don't have the funds to buy all the stuff for tuning ATM.... just put a kid in FSU ;)

 

[K4fxd]

The 15 to 17 truck manifold will work without a tune but you will rip it off the car after your first drive. It sucks.

So just to be clear I'm describing the 18 and newer truck manifold in my above post.

 

[Racin4ds]

The 15 to 17 truck manifold will work without a tune but you will rip it off the car after your first drive. It sucks.

So just to be clear I'm describing the 18 and newer truck manifold in my above post.

10-4, yea I have a 2019 truck mani that I'm wanting to try. I love torque, I daily the car and almost never go above 6500 rpm. Why is a tune required if I also hook up the CMCV and use the stock TB? Can't the factory tune compensate for something as minor as that?

 

[K4fxd]

Ford changed the CMCV tuning parameters and it will throw a wrench light. The parameters need to be changed.

 

[illadvised]

I am usually running the gen3 truck manifold full time, but just took it off to pass smog. If you are boosted with no cmcv, you can get away without changing the tune (according to Lund).

I am sure it would drive better with a separate tune, but Lund told me it would run fine and wouldn't give me a new one even if I paid them. It is a lot more fun to drive than the mustang manifold around town either way

 

[Racin4ds]

I am usually running the gen3 truck manifold full time, but just took it off to pass smog. If you are boosted with no cmcv, you can get away without changing the tune (according to Lund).

I am sure it would drive better with a separate tune, but Lund told me it would run fine and wouldn't give me a new one even if I paid them. It is a lot more fun to drive than the mustang manifold around town either way

Interesting... I would think it would require a retune either way, whether boosted or N/A. I about to bolt one on my 2015 and just see what happens.. isn't like its a tough swap.

 

[illadvised]

Interesting... I would think it would require a retune either way, whether boosted or N/A. I about to bolt one on my 2015 and just see what happens.. isn't like its a tough swap.

Are you tuned for no IMRC/lockouts?

 

[Racin4ds]

Are you tuned for no IMRC/lockouts?

No, no tune at all and plan to keep my CMCV's.

 

[illadvised]

No, no tune at all and plan to keep my CMCV's.

You can't just drop it on then. The Gen 3 manifolds have different imrc wiring.

You can get a wiring harness adapter to keep them on a Gen2 engine, but still would need a tune

 

[K4fxd]

It will run for a few miles then trip the wrench light.

No tune needed other than CMCV but tuning gets more out of it.

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