Heavily considering boost.. Usable?

[Evo_Rob]

It happens. The dealers don't help, either. They like to make you think you're getting that super sweet deal.

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[Whipple SC]

Doesn't the roush warranty for phase 2 only cover the supplied parts, not powertrain? I saw that he was phase 2.

I use the one warranty program that will payout everytime...my checking account. I never buy warranties, there is always fine print with them.

Nope, phase 2 isn't warrantied except for parts. But hey he's got bumper to bumper at all Ford dealers so he's good :shrug: LOL

 

[evo8904]

Nope, phase 2 isn't warrantied except for parts. But hey he's got bumper to bumper at all Ford dealers so he's good :shrug: LOL

:lol::lol::lol:

 

[Whipple SC]

If you purchase the warranty, you do have b-2-b coverage. The Roush warranties cover their components + the power train. The rest of the car is covered by the Ford warranty. If you get it installed by a Roush/Ford dealer, there should be no warranty hassles. In fact, I've seen them go out of their way to resolve issues @ the dealer that did mine (Elder in Tampa).

Phase 2 does void the Roush warranty, which I suspect will keep a lot of ppl from upgrading (as seen in the announcement thread).

Just my $.02, but the Phase 1 puts down plenty of power, way more than most will ever use or need. If you are planning to drag your car & go for the best possible times, then I can see going a different route. For a great many (like myself) that want a fast, reliable, fun car the Roush package is a solid choice.

He thinks he has a Ford warranty, not the $995 Roush supplemental warranty. And he still doesn't have bumper to bumper when he's posting video's of drag racing which is clearly shown to void the warranty.

If you have a supplemental warranty, you can't go to any Ford dealer, you have to go to a Roush/Ford dealer for work. A normal Ford dealer can work on it, but the warranty program is through a Roush Performance dealer.

Many Roush customers are very misinformed about warranties. From the one's I know, most have not purchased the supplemental warranty, but still think they have a stock warranty because of the Ford/Roush partnership. But the partnership is Ford Performance/Roush, mainstream has very strict policies about the warranty. While many dealers just work loose and feel its not going to have an issue, the fact is, if it does, it will be down to the dealer paying for it or customer.

 

[sonic]

He thinks he has a Ford warranty, not the $995 Roush supplemental warranty. And he still doesn't have bumper to bumper when he's posting video's of drag racing which is clearly shown to void the warranty.

If you have a supplemental warranty, you can't go to any Ford dealer, you have to go to a Roush/Ford dealer for work. A normal Ford dealer can work on it, but the warranty program is through a Roush Performance dealer.

Many Roush customers are very misinformed about warranties. From the one's I know, most have not purchased the supplemental warranty, but still think they have a stock warranty because of the Ford/Roush partnership. But the partnership is Ford Performance/Roush, mainstream has very strict policies about the warranty. While many dealers just work loose and feel its not going to have an issue, the fact is, if it does, it will be down to the dealer paying for it or customer.

This is 100% FACT!!!! Without saying what I do for a living I can tell you Whipple SC IS 100% accurate in his statements

 

[roush_s550]

ROUSH and Ford Racing (now Ford Performance) partnered on the kit. Both companies warranty 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty on parts, and you can pay $995 to have ROUSH/ Ford Racing warranty the drivetrain. The same claus apples to any oem vehicle including a GT350 or a hellcat. To my knowledge Roush hardly ever deny's a claim, even with racing. I know for a fact that they don't deny claims unless it is a blatant neglect misuse of the vehicle. Roush cars are made to be raced on the track.

And yes, dealerships that sell these kits will still honor most warranty repairs unrelated to the performance parts. And Roush/Ford Performace will cover the rest. Essentially making most all parts still covered to 36k!

 

[Superman15]

Only one company warranties it. That is Roush. Regardless if you buy Roush or Ford Racing. If you did not buy the $995 warranty, you do not have a power-train warranty. But I believe you did purchase the warranty.

 

[MikeD1]

He thinks he has a Ford warranty, not the $995 Roush supplemental warranty. And he still doesn't have bumper to bumper when he's posting video's of drag racing which is clearly shown to void the warranty.

If you have a supplemental warranty, you can't go to any Ford dealer, you have to go to a Roush/Ford dealer for work. A normal Ford dealer can work on it, but the warranty program is through a Roush Performance dealer.

Many Roush customers are very misinformed about warranties. From the one's I know, most have not purchased the supplemental warranty, but still think they have a stock warranty because of the Ford/Roush partnership. But the partnership is Ford Performance/Roush, mainstream has very strict policies about the warranty. While many dealers just work loose and feel its not going to have an issue, the fact is, if it does, it will be down to the dealer paying for it or customer.

Well, I can't speak to what others "think" they have, but I was VERY aware that there were 3 warranties before I pulled the trigger (Ford, Roush component, Roush powertrain i.e. the $995 supplement). The dealer (Elder Ford in Tampa) made it very clear that's how it worked. They have had ppl in the past that didn't understand, so now they make the $995 supplement a required part of any install - just so there are no arguments/surprises down the road. Some may object to that, but I intended to get the coverage all along so it was not an issue for me.

I did shop for dealers before going with Elder and as always not all dealers are cut from the same cloth. There were closer Ford/Roush dealers, but they did not have very good street reps, so I made the drive (70 miles vs. 6) to Elder. And FWIW, I did spend a lot of time talking to the Roush shop guys there. They all said there have been very few issues/claims with the cars they built or R3's they sold, even ones they knew were being raced.

Unless it was an absolute emergency I would not want a non Roush auth. dealer fiddling about with my car, so the fact that some dealers may 'balk' at working on it isn't a big deal to me either. There certainly seem to be at least 2 or 3 to pick from in any major city.

 

[Jmeo]

Everyone grab your popcorn because there are few misinformed people in here who will be in for a nice surprise if something goes boom.

It's obvious they can't be educated because they know better so I say good luck bud [emoji106]

 

[RitzGT]

Hey, just sit back and watch the hilarity ensue when he has to find out the hard way about the warranty. It made me laugh when I worked at the dealerships that people would assume these things.

At the end of the day, I just assume I'm going to eat the cost of repairs if I've made any significant mods to the engine (like adding forced induction to an engine that was delivered normally aspirated from the factory). Speed costs money.....how fast do you want to go?

If someone is sweating the cost to replace the engine on a $30k car, then I'd question if this is a game they can afford to play. Don't gamble the rent money.

Best,

 

[roush_s550]

This sure has gotten off the original topic the thread was posted about... The OP asked if SC cars can be daily driven. Some members shared an opinion why they chose their setup as a daily driver... All this banter about who does what warranty and whatnot seems to be turning into a brand battle. All I'm saying is I chose Roush phase 1 for a daily driver because Roush is a vigorously tested proven company that partnered with Ford Performance this year and many dealerships are installing this kit and honoring warranty claims because they can read the PCM and trust the tune that Roush sends out with their kits... For me, if I was concerned about repair costs, I would advise to choose Roush TVS simply because of that. I'm certain that the dealerships that installs the kit will also work on repairs as warranty claims and save you some money if you ever need repairs. Once ouside tuned NO DEALERSHIP will honor (or let slip by) any warranty claims. The PCM will be compromised and they will surely flag it..

 

[Whipple SC]

This sure has gotten off the original topic the thread was posted about... The OP asked if SC cars can be daily driven. Some members shared an opinion why they chose their setup as a daily driver... All this banter about who does what warranty and whatnot seems to be turning into a brand battle. All I'm saying is I chose Roush phase 1 for a daily driver because Roush is a vigorously tested proven company that partnered with Ford Performance this year and many dealerships are installing this kit and honoring warranty claims because they can read the PCM and trust the tune that Roush sends out with their kits... For me, if I was concerned about repair costs, I would advise to choose Roush TVS simply because of that. I'm certain that the dealerships that installs the kit will also work on repairs as warranty claims and save you some money if you ever need repairs. Once ouside tuned NO DEALERSHIP will honor (or let slip by) any warranty claims. The PCM will be compromised and they will surely flag it..

Again you post one sided in accurate info just like the warranty info.

No factory warranty, supplemental just like we offer so nobody is truly honoring factory warranties. The laugh is we offered the same kit, 2011-2014 with FRPP, many dealers installed it, guess what, no powertrain warranty.

Factory tune? Again you realize the cal comes from the same place. The difference is that is the early version, let's call it rev b. We are on rev z with lots of enhanced features. Ford software, recognized at a dealership, done by ford engineers. Flash tool is the same as ford performance but better options.

We have many Ford dealers that install ours because they did the proper research and want to offer the customers the best.

We all understand your decision and that's great but you purchased because of a name and a warranty, not because it's better in many ways. It can clearly give you reliable power but misleading others isn't helpful.


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[Jmeo]

This sure has gotten off the original topic the thread was posted about... The OP asked if SC cars can be daily driven. Some members shared an opinion why they chose their setup as a daily driver... All this banter about who does what warranty and whatnot seems to be turning into a brand battle. All I'm saying is I chose Roush phase 1 for a daily driver because Roush is a vigorously tested proven company that partnered with Ford Performance this year and many dealerships are installing this kit and honoring warranty claims because they can read the PCM and trust the tune that Roush sends out with their kits... For me, if I was concerned about repair costs, I would advise to choose Roush TVS simply because of that. I'm certain that the dealerships that installs the kit will also work on repairs as warranty claims and save you some money if you ever need repairs. Once ouside tuned NO DEALERSHIP will honor (or let slip by) any warranty claims. The PCM will be compromised and they will surely flag it..

No, we are providing the OP with valuable information tying to correct what wrong information you have given.

First, you don't know what your talking about. "Roush partnered with Ford this year" WRONG. Ford Performance has been involved with Whipple and Roush for 10+ years and for some reason unknown to us (Shady backstabbing politics) someone who knows someone stabbed someone in the back and now it's just Roush on the kit.

Second, YOU HAVE NO MORE FACTORY WARRANTY ON YOU DRIVETRAIN PERIOD. Anyone who thinks they do are fooling themselves. The only way something might be covered is if you have a dealership willing to be sneaky with Ford and pass something by them. The dealership has to get EVERYTHING approved by Ford and if they get caught trying to screw the pooch they loose far to much. So, when the time comes, your dealer is going to send you down the river in order to keep their selling/relationship with Ford. 100% fact so stop misleading people with your uneducated guessing. I don't care what "someone" told you you are wrong and it's not cool to try and get others to drink the same cool aide they got you to drink.

Third, I'm not saying anything negative about the Roush kit (until now), it will work just fine for some people but it's the classic case of buying something and eventually wishing you didn't when you learn for a short amount more money you could have had WAY better than what you bought. That's when people try to justify to themselves they are happy and preach online to get others to make the same decision. Sound familiar? ;)

So, to answer the OP EVERY kit you find can be a daily driver right out of the box. Some keep you wishing you had more ........... and the rest are better options.

 

[RobGT]

The warranty is great. I blew my half shafts and the Ford dealer covered it no problem at all. Roush works with fords and I believe they will take care of the issues that need be. I have never had an issue and think this combo works awesome. Plus I keep hearing Whipple cars getting blown and your SOL. They don't stand behind anything. Glad I went Roush all the way.

 

[sonic]

I Call BS ..

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