Face76
Well-Known Member
I guess the GT350 and GT350R are overpriced then?He bought a Camaro so he obviously likes Camaros. That is the definition of bias. Preferring one thing over another.
I don't know if he sandbags or not, but he definitely does a better job driving the GM products than he does in Fords. I can't understand it myself.
The Hellcat and GT500 definitely have some similarities. The GT500 is more tuned for grip and speed whereas the Hellcat is more tuned for burnouts. IMO there's a significant difference between them.
I'm definitely tempted by the Challenger offerings. I'm manual only, but if I ever decided to stop going to the road course I would probably buy a Challenger of some sort. They are nice on the road.
The reason one car has ADM and another can be sold under MSRP is how many people out there want to buy them versus how many are available. If a car doesn't sell it's overpriced (I would say that the ZL1 1LE is over priced at MSRP). Since the GT500 is selling at over MSRP - definitely MSRP isn't overpriced. Some ADMs are overpriced, but many are not.
The ZL1-1LE is discounted now for two reasons - GM over produces most models and overwhelms demand and there are only so many buyers who want a track-focused camaro. Look at my 2016 Hellcat. Based on overwhelming demand for the 2015 model, Dodge over-produced the 2016 and many sat on showrooms for literally years. I leased my loaded (MSRP 73k) 2016 Hellcat with an out the door price of 59k, a residual of 46k and 15k miles per year for 3 years. This happened in April of 2017 when the 2018's were about to come out. I couldn't buy a Honda at that price. It doesn't make it over-priced at MSRP. It shows stupidity at the C suite.
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