GT350 will destroy everything!

[venumous]

Really? Little jealous because you drive a ecoboost?

Yeah! How dare you place yourself in the presence of a GT350 god!

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[Voodooo]

Yeah! How dare you place yourself in the presence of a GT350 god!

Lmao.
Lighten up damn. Don't take it so serious.

 

[barstowpo]

My wife loves her Camaro. I love my 350. She doesn't like my 350 and I don't really like her Camaro. Her car is just a SS and is an auto to boot. I don't fit in it well, it is hard to see out of as well. To each his own. Competition makes everyone better. I also had the good sense to sandbag at our last stoplight matchup so she thinks her car is faster.

 

[Voodooo]

One of the reasons I have kept my gt350 is mechanically the car is great. As for speed? My car has been a beast. On all the track, street and strip. This is why I bought the "true base". Much less "nannies" and the best of the gt350's in unobtained glory.

Most people don't know but ALL 3 gt350 models for 16' have a completely different PCM software load? put all 3 PCM's up on torque, fuel mapping, yaw and traction intervention, motor and trans thresholds, suspension position to HP output curve and tps to fuel ratio graphs and you will see why the 16' tech packs have so many issues. Just a hidden secret? Run all 3 at the track, strip, accelerating, g's and so and see which is faster and performs the best? Not the tech! Maybe not the "R"? Re-flash PCM complete with "R" calibrations to tech and see what happens then? Different car? Much different results. Where did limp mode go on the track? Disappeared?

Got this info from someone that works within F-"*

That is why the 17' has the identical PCM programming between track and tech packs and perform virtually the same.

These cars as I said before are probably the most technologically advanced produced in the USA but that same technology has created many of the same problems for the gt350.

All I can say is my car has run against numerous iron from everyone and on the road course I have done incredible including polishing off more than a handful of Porsche's (Cayman's, Turbo and Gt3's) and everything else around the track. At the strip a little different but my car's best time is a corrected 11.8 in the quarter. Have won and lost. Not bad. on a clear street only car that has seemed to crush me has been the GT-R repeatedly then a Porsche turbo, Hellcat and a new z06 here and there. Not many and usually by a length or so.

Like I said speed and performance have been very very strong on my car. That being said the usual fit and finish, ford and dealer let downs overweighed my gt350 experience. Great car. Still too new? About 2500 miles but just too much BS from the dealers and then no support from Ford to get simple things covered under warranty. That has been a joke.

If I had a base GT350 I'd do exactly as I have done with my 16 Track pack and add Multimatic DSSV dampers. And drop a ton of weight from it. That would be a bad ass car.

 

[mkonrad]

Trash talking is the inalienable right of any car lover. Scratch that, it's probably a requirement.

But considering how I feel about Ford Performance at this time, due to the recall, 2016 tech pack idiocy, ADMs, a "for 2016" SYNC3 upgrade squeaking in just under the wire, and everything else -- I'm not willing to cut Ford Performance any slack.

GM is going to get the Car of the Year nods and better Nurbergring times until the full new Mustang chassis is out, because they started in 2016/2017 (ZL1, 1LE) and the S550 was 2015.

And it doesn't matter - neither GM nor Ford will make any of us Randy Pobst. Ford's Track Attack will probably do more to improve their track reputation than the engineering work. That much is smart.

 

[Darkane]

One of the reasons I have kept my gt350 is mechanically the car is great. As for speed? My car has been a beast. On all the track, street and strip. This is why I bought the "true base". Much less "nannies" and the best of the gt350's in unobtained glory.

Most people don't know but ALL 3 gt350 models for 16' have a completely different PCM software load? put all 3 PCM's up on torque, fuel mapping, yaw and traction intervention, motor and trans thresholds, suspension position to HP output curve and tps to fuel ratio graphs and you will see why the 16' tech packs have so many issues. Just a hidden secret? Run all 3 at the track, strip, accelerating, g's and so and see which is faster and performs the best? Not the tech! Maybe not the "R"? Re-flash PCM complete with "R" calibrations to tech and see what happens then? Different car? Much different results. Where did limp mode go on the track? Disappeared?

Got this info from someone that works within F-"*

That is why the 17' has the identical PCM programming between track and tech packs and perform virtually the same.

These cars as I said before are probably the most technologically advanced produced in the USA but that same technology has created many of the same problems for the gt350.

All I can say is my car has run against numerous iron from everyone and on the road course I have done incredible including polishing off more than a handful of Porsche's (Cayman's, Turbo and Gt3's) and everything else around the track. At the strip a little different but my car's best time is a corrected 11.8 in the quarter. Have won and lost. Not bad. on a clear street only car that has seemed to crush me has been the GT-R repeatedly then a Porsche turbo, Hellcat and a new z06 here and there. Not many and usually by a length or so.

Like I said speed and performance have been very very strong on my car. That being said the usual fit and finish, ford and dealer let downs overweighed my gt350 experience. Great car. Still too new? About 2500 miles but just too much BS from the dealers and then no support from Ford to get simple things covered under warranty. That has been a joke.

Hmm interesting. I love my base '16.

I'd like to say It feels very strong for my elevation being NA. This spring she's going to the 1/4 and 1/2 races.

For example, my brothers old tuned/intake C63 made around 520bhp (advertised with tune) and I could pull anytime in any gear (apples to apples). I just couldn't if below 3500.

He ran 12.9@109 at 2270 elevation, and the DA very commonly sees 3000-3500. Not sure what his DA was that night.

Long story short, I feel I have a 112-114mph in my car at that elevation, and according to calculations would end up being 116-118mph. Hopefully along the top of that.

 

[Tomster]

The Camaros I drove with on the track were not impressive. FWIW, the hellcats were similar, lots of straight-line power, but not a whole lot of maneuverability on the track.

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[Praehotec]

Exactly, zl1 hasn't won anything yet. We know it's fast for a lap. What happens when heat soak starts setting in? We'll see how it pans out. I do know that Ford SHOULD have an answer to the zl1 and the phat cats, but it sure is taking its damn time. The 350/R has been a good car but it's getting stale, something needs to change on it.
I love fords but if the ZR1 mid engine comes and is on par or exceeds the C7, it's gonna be parked in my garage, no question.

It is rather sad to see people calling the gt 350 stale when many of us are still waiting on our allocation to get pulled in the spring...

Well it will still be exciting for me when the time comes, although I am looking forward to hearing about the next Ford performance mustang! :ford:

 

[dron_jones]

It is rather sad to see people calling the gt 350 stale when many of us are still waiting on our allocation to get pulled in the spring...

Well it will still be exciting for me when the time comes, although I am looking forward to hearing about the next Ford performance mustang! :ford:

If you are obsessed with being able to brag that your car has the fastest time or best stats on paper, you might be disappointed and consider the car "stale"

If you are like most people where your skills limit the potential and not the car, i promise it will put a smile on your face every time you drive it. Hell it will put a smile on your face even if you just start it and open the exhaust valves.

 

[Tomster]

If you are obsessed with being able to brag that your car has the fastest time or best stats on paper, you might be disappointed and consider the car "stale"

If you are like most people where your skills limit the potential and not the car, i promise it will put a smile on your face every time you drive it. Hell it will put a smile on your face even if you just start it and open the exhaust valves.

I can say that where I found the GT350 lacking (in a track environment) was simply a lack of horsepower, torque, (and acceleration compared to some of the other cars I was running with). We have all heard the expression "if I only had 100 more horsepower". Well, as great as the GT350 is, I could hang with the audi R8 (v10's) and the Corvette Z06, but they flat out had the edge at each turn in exit accelleration. Those bastards could exit the turns and accelerate faster than my naturally aspirated FPC could keep up.

I realize they are a different car class, but to go looking for a bitch, that's it. The best I can relate from my experience is that it is like a dogfight. Each car has its strengths and weaknesses and they all seem to balance out in the long run in relative turns. All this in a car that costs a lot less than the closest competitor.

Now, back to the point of the thread. The Camaro was unimpressive (as I witnessed it driven by my peers in similar conditions). Camaro's bigger and better upcoming version may be better on the track (who knows). There is more to raw horsepower, torque, and acceleration. The car has to handle and maneuver (as witnessed in my videos above). If Chevy comes up with a more worthy car, that's great. Someone pointed out that Ford will be pressed to answer. When it comes time to sign on the dotted line for my R, and it has become stale in the many months to come, then I have a decision to make.

Respective to each class of car, Camaro vs GT350, it isn't even close.

 

[_M_]

^ what [MENTION=21800]Tomster[/MENTION] said. This car with 600hp from the factory would be outstanding! It's still great, but that extra horsepower would've put it over the top.

And stale...stale???

 

[Voodooo]

How can you compare a 2 seat sports car to a 4 passenger pony car. Face it, they are not in the same call and yet the gt350 hangs with all of them. The GT350 is NOT a one trick pony. When you can compare a 65k pony car to a 80-100-120+ "sports" car, then you know you have something special. And my whole point of starting this thread is people hanging on the ZL1's ball sack can lick it. The ZL1 is NOT the same class either. Who cares if it's faster, who cares if it can beat an R. I would hope so, it has 120+ more hp and tq. Imagine a gt350 with a blower, it would beat a NA GT350 also. Cut the belt off that ZL1 and the race is over. Right back to a POS 1LE.
The GT350/R has something the ZL1 will never have, awards and a cult following with news still that's still talked about on all website and magazine to this day like it just came out.
But with that said I'll take more hp / tq

 

[VOODOO 6G]

It is rather sad to see people calling the gt 350 stale when many of us are still waiting on our allocation to get pulled in the spring...

Well it will still be exciting for me when the time comes, although I am looking forward to hearing about the next Ford performance mustang! :ford:

They're not stale, that's BS.

 

[Blk2015GT]

I didn't mean to get members blood pressure up. The car is wonderful but I would like more power. The 75 (give or take) HP comes from headers, intake and a tune. That is about all that can be done to safely bring up the Voodoo's power other than FI. Until I see several others using FI with good results I am going to shy away. My engine has been replaced once and the new engine is using oil (so far a quart every 750 miles).

You have quite a bit of knowledge on this platform. How can the car be brought up to 600 wheel HP without FI? I ask this not as a challenge to you. If it can be done that would be awesome.

From the interwebs and other sources the LT4 can be reliably run up to 800 wheel HP. Below are 2 examples.

800 hp build with minimal (under $3000) invested. Yes the music and video are hard to watch but you asked.


800 HP build with a little more invested.


This is just a very fun hobby to me. Please don't take it the wrong way. I am sorry if I have insulted anyone. Just making conversation which is what forums are all about.

Happy new year :chill:

I think you're confused. You're trying to compare a naturally aspirated high revving V8 to a supercharged V8; not the same animal.

Very FEW naturally aspirated cars will go over 600hp. I believe the GT350 is in fact the highest HP naturally aspirated production V8.

There are more than 1 vendors here running a supercharger on GT350s making 800 plus hp. See below

But comparing a Z06 (supercharged from the factory) is a foolish comparison. Of course it only cost $3k in mods, it already had a factory supercharger!

PS the Z06 also MSRPs for starting at $80,000; a TON more than a GT350 at around $60k. That $83k build is not so appealing when a GT350 with a supercharger is under $70k putting out about the same power.



819hp GT350 with a simple Whipple blower that Lethal has.
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[crazyfish]

If I had a base GT350 I'd do exactly as I have done with my 16 Track pack and add Multimatic DSSV dampers. And drop a ton of weight from it. That would be a bad ass car.

Been looking for another "true base" but next to impossible without ending up at $70k+ used. Very hard car to find now. The base PCM is set up differently than the others. My friend who works within the blue said we switch the cams! Only the base will work. Supposedly there are some cams that are out that work phenomenally well in the 5.2 raising the torque curve dramatically in the 2800 rpm range and up while going all the way up to 8800rpm and HP approaching 650? Only problem is I don't want to be the guinea pig unless I have a back up gt350. But Since so many new great cars coming out I don't know if it is worth owning another gt350? I drove a hopped up Audi S6 and wow. Probably the fastest car I have driven on the street. Even faster than an AMS GT-R and Hellcat. Could not believe how hard this car hits and handled quite good for a 4 door. Supposedly 650hp but instant grip and acceleration and control. May be my new addition.

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