GT350 will destroy everything!

[Voodooo]

Been looking for another "true base" but next to impossible without ending up at $70k+ used. Very hard car to find now. The base PCM is set up differently than the others. My friend who works within the blue said we switch the cams! Only the base will work. Supposedly there are some cams that are out that work phenomenally well in the 5.2 raising the torque curve dramatically in the 2800 rpm range and up while going all the way up to 8800rpm and HP approaching 650? Only problem is I don't want to be the guinea pig unless I have a back up gt350. But Since so many new great cars coming out I don't know if it is worth owning another gt350? I drove a hopped up Audi S6 and wow. Probably the fastest car I have driven on the street. Even faster than an AMS GT-R and Hellcat. Could not believe how hard this car hits and handled quite good for a 4 door. Supposedly 650hp but instant grip and acceleration and control. May be my new addition.

I'm do not believe that the base cams are different. But if you can find these other cams you speak of, I'll try them. I love being a guinea pig!

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[350Mike]

Cooling issues allegedly have been addressed on the 2017 Z06 and the ZL1. Heat soak can be greatly minimized on pd blowers. Dodge has shown that with the Hellcats. There is an Ignition episode coming from Motortrend on the ZL1. I guess we'll see if the heatsoak rears it's head. I don't get the ZL1 hate. From what I can tell it's an awesome value right now. I'd like to see it pitted against the beloved 350R. Also, the C7Z06 has some of the fastest lap times in just about every instrumented test, only bested by hypercarss or the Viper ACR, all which cost more. Your comment is laughable. Ford makes nothing to compete with top Vettes, yet GM is the one with the problem? This GT350 really has made people crazy.

Heard of the Ford GT... Prob not...

 

[Voodooo]

Cooling issues allegedly have been addressed on the 2017 Z06 and the ZL1. Heat soak can be greatly minimized on pd blowers. Dodge has shown that with the Hellcats. There is an Ignition episode coming from Motortrend on the ZL1. I guess we'll see if the heatsoak rears it's head. I don't get the ZL1 hate. From what I can tell it's an awesome value right now. I'd like to see it pitted against the beloved 350R. Also, the C7Z06 has some of the fastest lap times in just about every instrumented test, only bested by hypercarss or the Viper ACR, all which cost more. Your comment is laughable. Ford makes nothing to compete with top Vettes, yet GM is the one with the problem? This GT350 really has made people crazy.

Really? Dodge shown that? It's funny how many people forget the GT500. If it wasn't for the GT500 you wouldn't have a Hellcat, or a ZL1 for that matter!
Wow ford makes nothing to compete to the vett. Well hmmmm GT40/GT.
The GT350 has really made people crazy. I'd say the crazy one is you, comparing a NA car to a FI car. Oh I'm sorry your *****cat can't handle corners, it's under tired and is obese! Dodge should of named the Hellcat Garfield.

 

[crazyfish]

I'm do not believe that the base cams are different. But if you can find these other cams you speak of, I'll try them. I love being a guinea pig!

No difference in ANY of the gt350 motors. Difference is in the PCM programming. All 3 2016 curves different. Base has the least amount of parameter controls.

The cams I have been told may be the aluminator cams from the 5.0?

 

[Voodooo]

No difference in ANY of the gt350 motors. Difference is in the PCM programming. All 3 2016 curves different. Base has the least amount of parameter controls.

The cams I have been told may be the aluminator cams from the 5.0?

The 5.0 cams will not work on a 5.2. The firing orders are not the same. Nobody offers cams for the 5.2. The stock 5.2 cams are already 14mm lift. That's .551, that's pretty big for a 4 valve engine.

 

[Caballus]

It would seem that the only software differences between the 350 and 350R would be in relation to suspension, since that's the mechanical difference between the trims (and trans cooler). What engine-related software differences are there, how are they brought in line, and what affect does aligning them have?

 

[ZaneWayne]

Really? Little jealous because you drive a ecoboost?

Hahaha. Wow. So tough.

 

[Darkane]

Been looking for another "true base" but next to impossible without ending up at $70k+ used. Very hard car to find now. The base PCM is set up differently than the others. My friend who works within the blue said we switch the cams! Only the base will work. Supposedly there are some cams that are out that work phenomenally well in the 5.2 raising the torque curve dramatically in the 2800 rpm range and up while going all the way up to 8800rpm and HP approaching 650? Only problem is I don't want to be the guinea pig unless I have a back up gt350. But Since so many new great cars coming out I don't know if it is worth owning another gt350? I drove a hopped up Audi S6 and wow. Probably the fastest car I have driven on the street. Even faster than an AMS GT-R and Hellcat. Could not believe how hard this car hits and handled quite good for a 4 door. Supposedly 650hp but instant grip and acceleration and control. May be my new addition.

What are you talking about switch the cams? Makes no sense - the hardware is identical in the drivetrain.

 

[ihc95]

Been looking for another "true base" but next to impossible without ending up at $70k+ used. Very hard car to find now. The base PCM is set up differently than the others. My friend who works within the blue said we switch the cams! Only the base will work. Supposedly there are some cams that are out that work phenomenally well in the 5.2 raising the torque curve dramatically in the 2800 rpm range and up while going all the way up to 8800rpm and HP approaching 650?

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[tdzee]

No difference in ANY of the gt350 motors. Difference is in the PCM programming. All 3 2016 curves different. Base has the least amount of parameter controls.

Which 3 models? The 3 non R models, I assume. What differences are there for the R programming? Anything different in MY 17?

I have a MY17 base R on order and am curious. Thanks

 

[crazyfish]

Which 3 models? The 3 non R models, I assume. What differences are there for the R programming? Anything different in MY 17?

I have a MY17 base R on order and am curious. Thanks

On the 2016 models there are 3 PCM software loads. Base, Tech and Track/R. Each has a different program for engine and control parameters. So if you are able to print out interaction graphs for each you see the differences. For 2017 there is 1 PCM load for all cars whether base, track or R.

 

[Voodooo]

On the 2016 models there are 3 PCM software loads. Base, Tech and Track/R. Each has a different program for engine and control parameters. So if you are able to print out interaction graphs for each you see the differences. For 2017 there is 1 PCM load for all cars whether base, track or R.

Where are you gettig this info?
Because I have a track pack and I've seen dyno pulls for all models of GT350/R and they all dyno the same.

 

[Caballus]

On the 2016 models there are 3 PCM software loads. Base, Tech and Track/R. Each has a different program for engine and control parameters. So if you are able to print out interaction graphs for each you see the differences. For 2017 there is 1 PCM load for all cars whether base, track or R.

Where are the graphs available?

 

[VOODOO 6G]

Where are you gettig this info?
Because I have a track pack and I've seen dyno pulls for all models of GT350/R and they all dyno the same.

I read in a press release that the R had a hotter tune. Never have seen anything to prove it but really never questioned it either. As far as the other 3 I haven't been able to find anything that says the tunes are different. The cams being different I don't believe at all.

 

[firestarter2]

Where are you gettig this info?
Because I have a track pack and I've seen dyno pulls for all models of GT350/R and they all dyno the same.

Different load doesn't mean the cars make different power. Could be the limp mode settings of the differential pump etc

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