GT or EB

[Bull Run]

If you are truly a “car guy” you will regret not getting a GT and will either spend more money in the long run by trading in or spend money on the EB trying to make it have the power of a GT (which does not sound good at all with exhaust IMO) and ultimately still not be happy.

In my opinion a true "car guy" doesn't care as much about the particular type of engine in a car vs. the overall experience. I've owned/driven foreign and domestic cars and trucks with engines ranging between V10s to I3s and had appreciation for all of them. That's why we call ourselves "car guys" not "engine guys". I found that modding the EB is as much fun as modding previous V8 Mustangs. While the 2.3's exhaust sounds horrible (luckily, I'm not a loud exhaust guy), Coyotes sound raspy compared to the classic rumble of old school 5.0's or 351W/Cs. At least Voodoo has a semi-exotic roar that sounds great. So by your definition, a true "car guy" will regret not getting a GT350 since it has more power and better sounding exhaust.

I think guys who buy EB’s that contemplate GT’s simply can’t afford or do not want to afford GT’s, which is fine, everyone has a budget they should stick to, but if it’s an issue get a year older GT and have fun.
Buy once, cry once.
(Not trying to hurt feelings, just stating my observations/opinions)

It's funny how GT-Bro types over-inflate the price of GT to make it sound like something it's not. The MSRP difference between EB and GT's only $9K so don't act like as if the OP asked if he should get an EB or a Ferrari. For "can I afford monthly payments" type of guys, 7-8 year loans make it possible for almost anyone to "afford" the new Mustang GT. On the other extreme end, going by the Dave Ramsey's definition of affordability, I doubt that you or most of other guys on this thread can "afford" a new GT. And someone that has hurt feelings over cars has self-esteem issues that won't be solved by merely getting a next trim up model, since there will always be someone with more expensive and faster car than you.

Lol, I think I would likely to go for gt,,, I'll try it out and see!
I think 10A for sure, because I need it for daily commute, don't know how to dance manual, and not sure if I will like that dance...

If never had a V8 car before, I recommend getting a GT with manual since I foresee V8s and manuals being first victims of the transition to EVs. The first car I ever had was a manual and I didn't even know to drive one when I got it (my friend's dad drove it back for me). I asked my sister's BF give me a quick lesson and spent the next few days practicing by myself in a parking lot before taking it on the road. It's like riding a bicycle; once you learn it, you won't forget it. Heck, see if you can rent a manual GT for a week to try it out.

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[WildHorse]

In my opinion a true "car guy" doesn't care as much about the particular type of engine in a car vs. the overall experience. I've owned/driven foreign and domestic cars and trucks with engines ranging between V10s to I3s and had appreciation for all of them. That's why we call ourselves "car guys" not "engine guys". I found that modding the EB is as much fun as modding previous V8 Mustangs. While the 2.3's exhaust sounds horrible (luckily, I'm not a loud exhaust guy), Coyotes sound raspy compared to the classic rumble of old school 5.0's or 351W/Cs. At least Voodoo has a semi-exotic roar that sounds great. So by your definition, a true "car guy" will regret not getting a GT350 since it has more power and better sounding exhaust.

Problem is a EB will blow up just idling. Haha. Coyotes sound raspy cause of the firing order, & cam timing. Ever listen to a 65 Mustang 306hp / 289 cid GT350? RASPY.

 

[MidnightGT]

In my opinion a true "car guy" doesn't care as much about the particular type of engine in a car vs. the overall experience. I've owned/driven foreign and domestic cars and trucks with engines ranging between V10s to I3s and had appreciation for all of them. That's why we call ourselves "car guys" not "engine guys". I found that modding the EB is as much fun as modding previous V8 Mustangs. While the 2.3's exhaust sounds horrible (luckily, I'm not a loud exhaust guy), Coyotes sound raspy compared to the classic rumble of old school 5.0's or 351W/Cs. At least Voodoo has a semi-exotic roar that sounds great. So by your definition, a true "car guy" will regret not getting a GT350 since it has more power and better sounding exhaust.




It's funny how GT-Bro types over-inflate the price of GT to make it sound like something it's not. The MSRP difference between EB and GT's only $9K so don't act like as if the OP asked if he should get an EB or a Ferrari. For "can I afford monthly payments" type of guys, 7-8 year loans make it possible for almost anyone to "afford" the new Mustang GT. On the other extreme end, going by the Dave Ramsey's definition of affordability, I doubt that you or most of other guys on this thread can "afford" a new GT. And someone that has hurt feelings over cars has self-esteem issues that won't be solved by merely getting a next trim up model, since there will always be someone with more expensive and faster car than

Well, I don’t like to post my opinion too much because people like to dissect others words in forums such as this...again which is why I put a disclaimer on my post.
One of my favorite cars I’ve had was a BMW 135i N54 that used in auto-x. So I’m not solely a v8 guy. Also, I said people who contemplate both...are usually wanting a v8...others know they want a v8 or an EB and there is no discussion to be had. I just personally feel there’s not much to compare when looking at the same trim models, and NO it isn’t a huge difference in price tag...but enough for a discussion to be had and it seems to sway many people one way or the other.

Furthermore, the GT is easily affordable on my salary as I’m a 31 y/o CRNA who’s not afriaid of call and OT, so some months are upwards of $19k....since you took it upon yourself to assume you know my financial well-being.

 

[Lorne34]

Jay Leno had an interesting comment about the EB vs GT in his 2015 GT350 video.. he actually liked the EB more than the GT. Get what suits your budget and list for now.. you can always upgrade later...

 

[Bull Run]

Well, I don’t like to post my opinion too much because people like to dissect others words in forums such as this...again which is why I put a disclaimer on my post.
One of my favorite cars I’ve had was a BMW 135i N54 that used in auto-x. So I’m not solely a v8 guy. Also, I said people who contemplate both...are usually wanting a v8...others know they want a v8 or an EB and there is no discussion to be had. I just personally feel there’s not much to compare when looking at the same trim models, and NO it isn’t a huge difference in price tag...but enough for a discussion to be had and it seems to sway many people one way or the other.

Furthermore, the GT is easily affordable on my salary as I’m a 31 y/o CRNA who’s not afriaid of call and OT, so some months are upwards of $19k....since you took it upon yourself to assume you know my financial well-being.

You're the one who said "If you are truly a “car guy” you will regret not getting a GT ", not me.

It's funny that people who assume financial well-being about others get upset when someone else assumes theirs. "I think guys who buy EB’s that contemplate GT’s simply can’t afford or do not want to afford GT’s"

Lol, I love it when people include extreme amount of OT to inflate their income. Just like oil field workers bragging how they can make six-figures easy out of high school but neglect to mention crazy hours of OT and the fact that they're away for weeks in a remote and hostle environment. I know people in sales that make more than that on commission on some months but that's not sustainable, like my neighbor in aerospace industry who, unfortunately, isn't doing so well now due to the airliners getting crushed. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have bought two new cars earlier this year if he had known but then again, who knew?

Don't get me wrong, CRNAs make good money and can afford Mustang GTs in most practical sense, but reading comprehension matters in this case because I stated that on the other extreme end of affordability, as stated by Dave Ramsey, you and most people on this thread can't afford new GTs. But if your net-worth is over $1 million, congrats since your close to the 90% percentile. But since you don't seem to know the difference between income and wealth, I'm still doubtful that you meet Dave's definition for new car ownership. Don't worry, there are plenty of highly paid doctors that work until they die because they haven't figured it out, either, so you have company.

From Dave Ramsey: As a general rule of thumb, the total value of your vehicles (anything with a motor in it) should never be more than half of your annual household income. Dave doesn't recommend buying a new car—ever—until your net worth is more than $1 million.

 

[NickZ]

Thank you Bull Run!
Appreciate your opinion!

 

[Bull Run]

Problem is a EB will blow up just idling. Haha. Coyotes sound raspy cause of the firing order, & cam timing. Ever listen to a 65 Mustang 306hp / 289 cid GT350? RASPY.

So you admit that Coyotes sound raspy as well? It's funny how some people say get the new 5.0 for the V8 roar when it shounds nothing like the classic V8s. Disclaimer: In my opinion, Coyotes still sound light-years better than EBs but Voodoos sound better.

 

[Hack]

From Dave Ramsey: As a general rule of thumb, the total value of your vehicles (anything with a motor in it) should never be more than half of your annual household income. Dave doesn't recommend buying a new car—ever—until your net worth is more than $1 million.

Is it household net worth or individual? Asking because I noticed you are including a spouse's income but not stating household net worth. Really 1 million net worth is a pretty low bar, especially if it's based on two people.

I think it makes sense to avoid buying a new car. Seems like good advice to me. Especially since Mustangs tend to be treated as special cars and generally are kept in good condition. I don't usually worry about people driving hard as long as the car is still under power train warranty.

 

[Bull Run]

Is it household net worth or individual? Asking because I noticed you are including a spouse's income but not stating household net worth.

I think it makes sense to avoid buying a new car. Seems like good advice to me. Especially since Mustangs tend to be treated as special cars and generally are kept in good condition. I don't usually worry about people driving hard as long as the car is still under power train warranty.

My guess is household income but yy wife stopped working when our kid was born 10 years go so it doesn't matter in my case. So using his formula, a couple with buys two new Mustang GTs at $40,000 each needs $160,000 in yearly income. I think this is doable by many but note that as of 2018, only 14% of households in the US meet this requirement. I think what that trips up the most is the net worth requirement since high earning doesn't mean high savings/investing. There are many books and articles on this but my friend who used to be in consumer banker noticed that many of his clients have high income (think doctor/lawyer/popular small business owner types) but they regular request emergency personal loans of few thousand dollars. Sure, they pay them back quickly but it still costed them fees.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

Is it household net worth or individual? Asking because I noticed you are including a spouse's income but not stating household net worth. Really 1 million net worth is a pretty low bar, especially if it's based on two people.

I think it makes sense to avoid buying a new car. Seems like good advice to me. Especially since Mustangs tend to be treated as special cars and generally are kept in good condition. I don't usually worry about people driving hard as long as the car is still under power train warranty.

I got a GT I'll sell ya. It's only got 22k miles on it. And most of those were very gently earned a 1/4 mile at a time.

 

[Hack]

I got a GT I'll sell ya. It's only got 22k miles on it. And most of those were very gently earned a 1/4 mile at a time.

I might not buy one that's out of warranty and has a blower on it, but thanks.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

So nickZ which one are you getting? The suspense is killing me. If you wait for these ding dongs to stop fighting about which is better you may never own a Mustang!

 

[ice445]

You're the one who said "If you are truly a “car guy” you will regret not getting a GT ", not me.

It's funny that people who assume financial well-being about others get upset when someone else assumes theirs. "I think guys who buy EB’s that contemplate GT’s simply can’t afford or do not want to afford GT’s"

Lol, I love it when people include extreme amount of OT to inflate their income. Just like oil field workers bragging how they can make six-figures easy out of high school but neglect to mention crazy hours of OT and the fact that they're away for weeks in a remote and hostle environment. I know people in sales that make more than that on commission on some months but that's not sustainable, like my neighbor in aerospace industry who, unfortunately, isn't doing so well now due to the airliners getting crushed. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have bought two new cars earlier this year if he had known but then again, who knew?

Don't get me wrong, CRNAs make good money and can afford Mustang GTs in most practical sense, but reading comprehension matters in this case because I stated that on the other extreme end of affordability, as stated by Dave Ramsey, you and most people on this thread can't afford new GTs. But if your net-worth is over $1 million, congrats since your close to the 90% percentile. But since you don't seem to know the difference between income and wealth, I'm still doubtful that you meet Dave's definition for new car ownership. Don't worry, there are plenty of highly paid doctors that work until they die because they haven't figured it out, either, so you have company.

From Dave Ramsey: As a general rule of thumb, the total value of your vehicles (anything with a motor in it) should never be more than half of your annual household income. Dave doesn't recommend buying a new car—ever—until your net worth is more than $1 million.

I don't listen to Dave Ramsey on this issue because he doesn't see cars as anything other than an A to B appliance. If that's your view point then of course you should never buy a car that's more than half of your yearly income. Most people can get away with a car that's 10% and it won't affect their quality of life at all. But as a person who's hobby is cars, it makes zero sense to be practical with your car purchases. Unless you just want to be bored all the time. Since a Mustang is by definition not a practical car, if you follow his advice, then for most people a used Ecoboost is the only thing you can actually "afford".

As far as the new car thing, it's never a good idea, but at the same time if you plan on keeping the car until it's paid off, it's less of a bad one. The main sin people do these days is buy a new car and then trade it in 3-5 years later on something newer to keep up with the Joneses. If you want to buy a car new, you better really want to keep it for a while because then some of the aspects of new play into your favor, like being able to keep it well maintained from day one and treat it nicely.

 

[WildHorse]

So you admit that Coyotes sound raspy as well?

Did I ever deny it? Most Ford smaller cube NA V-8 5.0, 5.2, 289's, 302's sound raspy at full boogey, to me anyways. If I wanted a potato-potato-potato idle I'd get a 460 and slap a 661 cam it in with 12:1 cr.

Anyways, does mine sound RASPY?

 

[Vicr]

I don't understand why some GT owners think EB owners can't afford one. When I bought my used EB I could have bought a new Z06 but I'm retiring early and used the money to by a piece of retirement property, a motorhome and will be getting a car trailer to take my now modified EB to tracks where ever I want to. It's all what your priorities are. Hell if I wanted to work another 2 years I'd buy a Carrerra 4S.

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