gt 350 fix thread

[Swoope]

it will be a struggle to buy one for me.. but i can/will go down to one car to do it.

but, i really think ford needs to give us some choices in rear gears. i dont know a track that i go to that i would want to run a 3.73 gear.

i think the pack that adds coolers and such is great. but really i think with the weight and power a 3.55 torson would be a better choice.

or at least an option..

what other things should be options or removed?

beers

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[BlackDragon]

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[IGJoe2192]

In my opinion a 3.73 ratio will be just fine with an 8k redline. I think a base with track pack will be reasonably priced.

 

[Hack]

Probably at least 3.90 and possibly up to 4.56 gears would be more appropriate for this engine. 3.73 is not enough gear to take advantage of the high redline and will really tame the car down. I know going from 3.73 in my last GT to the standard gears in my 2015 the car is much more sedate and relaxed to drive.

I would also want gear choices. The 3.73 would be acceptable to me since I will be daily driving it, but I think a steeper gear would make the car more fun, even for daily duties. Ford is really setting the GT350 up for the weekend warriors IMO. With this gear it's not as serious a track car as it could be.

Edit: I may want different seats. I'm worried I won't fit in the stock Recaros. I really don't want leather either. My back and hips are both too wide for the factory 2015 seats. I can manage ok, but if the Recaros are similarly narrow with even taller bolsters it may be impossible for me to sit in them.

 

[FPC GT350]

If it's a track car like Ford says why would you want steep gears? They should offer 3.55s you would really be able to build speed, and not have to change gears as much.

 

[Grimace427]

If it's a track car like Ford says why would you want steep gears? They should offer 3.55s you would really be able to build speed, and not have to change gears as much.

Don't forget about the 8,000rpm redline. Higher the redline, the steeper the gears to match it.

 

[IGJoe2192]

3.55's gears were good in my 5spd Mach 1. But with a 6spd and an engine that pokes just north of 8,000rpm 3.73's 3.90's and even 4.11's would be a good option. This engine isn't going to be a torque monster so the higher gear ratio will help even more with acceleration and with a 6spd transmission you have enough gears to handle the higher ratios. A lower ratio will just increase your theoretical top speed and make your gears longer. It really depends on the track you frequent but 3.73's to me are a really sweet gear, I went from 2.73's to 3.73's in my 86 GT what a difference that made! So 3.73's will be sufficient for good mileage and track ability while some 3.9's or 4.11's would probably be best for this particular car for the track. We don't know what ratios the transmission will have either.

 

[Hack]

If it's a track car like Ford says why would you want steep gears? They should offer 3.55s you would really be able to build speed, and not have to change gears as much.

It's as simple as better acceleration. If it's a track car you want better acceleration, not the best fuel economy on a long trip or a relaxed driving environment. What you want is to be in top gear at redline at your top speed. If you have 3.55s you won't be able to rev the car all the way out in top gear. Also with steeper rear gears the RPM drop when you shift is much less. This keeps the engine in its power band, another improvement for faster acceleration.

Thinking about it, this could be a concession to engine durability as well. If you put less gear in the car it tames the car down and the driver will tend to rev the engine out less. You have to hold the car in a single gear for a really long time to reach the red line. With steep gears the engine will get to red line much faster and you have to be prepared to shift. Novices will bounce the engine off the rev limiter a lot more if the car comes from the factory with steep rear gears. If you look at the other gears thread on 6g forums:

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12713

From post #3:

Numbers with 8250rpm redline and 3.73 gears. 1st 53mph, 2nd 4900rpm to 89 mph, 3rd 5514rpm to 134mph, 4th 6203rpm to 178mph. 1800 rpm at 65mph in 6th gear.

You don't need to be geared so you are at 1800 RPM at 65 mph in 6th gear and you don't need to be able to reach 178 mph in 4th gear.

Having steeper gears gives the engine more leverage against the rear tires and the car will accelerate faster (assuming you have enough traction). Yes you will have to shift more, but that's the price you pay for better acceleration. In my 2011 GT with 3.73s I often skip shifted 1-3-5 or 2-4-6 if I wasn't in a hurry. That would be the case with the GT350 as well. With an 8,200 rpm redline you can probably hold out first and then shift directly to 5th if you really want to (not that I would recommend that).

 

[DEW]

it will be a struggle to buy one for me.. but i can/will go down to one car to do it.

but, i really think ford needs to give us some choices in rear gears. i dont know a track that i go to that i would want to run a 3.73 gear.

i think the pack that adds coolers and such is great. but really i think with the weight and power a 3.55 torson would be a better choice.

or at least an option..

what other things should be options or removed?

beers

I don't know what tracks you run but 3.73's will be great for both Sebring & Daytona. Better than the 3.55's in my opinion, If anything I think a little more gear is in order.:shrug:

 

[Mystic_Cobra]

4.56 gear for a road racing car? Have you guys ever been on a road course?

Without knowing the transmission gears, you can't really know what the perfect gear is for the car. Also, every track is different. 3.73 is a great gear for MOST track oriented high-revving Mustangs.

I've run 3.27, 3.55, 3.73, and 4.10 gears in my road race Mustang. I've also run different trans gears via numerous stock T45s and the close ratio T56. AND I'm getting ready to switch to 3.90 gears. I've also run 4.6 and 5.0 Coyotes from 300 to 400 HP. Every time I make a major change like this, I have to rethink rear gears. It's all a compromise. 3.73 is definitely the best all around gear for a RR Mustang. With the 4.10s I spend too much time shifting.

I know it's fun to bench race online but Ford has done extensive testing on these cars. Is it possible that they actually know what they're doing?

 

[IGJoe2192]

4.56 gear for a road racing car? Have you guys ever been on a road course?

Without knowing the transmission gears, you can't really know what the perfect gear is for the car. Also, every track is different. 3.73 is a great gear for MOST track oriented high-revving Mustangs.

I've run 3.27, 3.55, 3.73, and 4.10 gears in my road race Mustang. I've also run different trans gears via numerous stock T45s and the close ratio T56. AND I'm getting ready to switch to 3.90 gears. I've also run 4.6 and 5.0 Coyotes from 300 to 400 HP. Every time I make a major change like this, I have to rethink rear gears. It's all a compromise. 3.73 is definitely the best all around gear for a RR Mustang. With the 4.10s I spend too much time shifting.

I know it's fun to bench race online but Ford has done extensive testing on these cars. Is it possible that they actually know what they're doing?

YOU DONT KNOW!

 

[Mystic_Cobra]

That's exactly what I just said. None of us know except for the engineers who are testing the cars.

[snip]you can't really know what the perfect gear is for the car

 

[DEW]

Without knowing the transmission gears, you can't really know what the perfect gear is for the car. Also, every track is different.

Good point.

 

[IGJoe2192]

Yeah... I said that too...

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