Fuse 27 - EB Fake noise

[TampaBear67]

From the Horses Mouth

OK I searched and found the interview with Mustang Chief Engineer, Dave Perciack where he describes the Active Sound Management for the 2015 Eco-Boost.
He Clearly says "We Don't create an Artificial Sound. We don't pluck one off the shelf."
I admit I was wrong about them Bringing Engine Sound Into the cabin.
It seems Ford has chosen the same route BMW uses on it's M-5 & M-6 by using Active Noise Cancellation along with Processing Actual Engine Sound and Amplifying it through the speakers. It is Not Fake Sound, Just Amplifying what is already there.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/Search-Results/First-Official-Pictures/Fords-chief-engineer-talks-2015-Mustang/

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[Brent302]

From the Horses Mouth

OK I searched and found the interview with Mustang Chief Engineer, Dave Perciack where he describes the Active Sound Management for the 2015 Eco-Boost.
He Clearly says "We Don't create an Artificial Sound. We don't pluck one off the shelf."
It seems Ford has chosen the same route BMW uses on it's M-5 & M-6 by using Active Noise Cancellation along with Processing Actual Engine Sound and Amplifying it through the speakers. It is Not Fake Sound.

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/S...ures/Fords-chief-engineer-talks-2015-Mustang/

You're not gonna win this like the ACC guys lol.

Explain the Fuse pull then...


He also said MPG would go up and the car would lose weight..

 

[Papaya]

If the sound is so unpleasant for Ford customers, I am sure Ford Service can take out the sound with an software update. Period!

I am honestly wondering why a couple of members here have nothing else to do than complaining, complaining and complaining. If you guys are so frustrated with the S550, I am sure there are plenty of other cars on the market. Please spare us that "Mustang bashing" day on day on. Seriously!

 

[TampaBear67]

You're not gonna win this like the ACC guys lol.

Explain the Fuse pull then...


He also said MPG would go up and the car would lose weight..

First off, I was the one who Originally Called the Adaptive Cruise Control Lower Grill and Stood By It Consistently because I knew I was Right.
Secondly, Re-Read My Post which I Edited to admit that I waa wrong about Ford using the Same Technology BMW uses by Processing Actual Engine Sound and Amplifying It through the speakers. The confusion came from another Article about Active Sound Management on Other Ford Products, which they Do Not Amplify the Engine Sounds. Obviously The Mustang is a Car they Want the Driver to Hear the Engine, Unlike a Fusion or MKZ. But as I said, It Is Not FAKE Sound.

 

[souprmage]

You should'a had a V8.

Ha, couldn't resist. I've never seen the "and we also amplify the engine sound order" part before. I only recalled seeing the 'noise cancellation part'.

Not sure what I think about the boost of sound. Hope you all can turn that off without turning off the radio.

 

[Brent302]

First off, I was the one who Originally Called the Adaptive Cruise Control Lower Grill and Stood By It Consistently because I knew I was Right.
Secondly, Re-Read My Post which I Edited to admit that I waa wrong about Ford using the Same Technology BMW uses by Processing Actual Engine Sound and Amplifying It through the speakers. The confusion came from another Article about Active Sound Management on Other Ford Products, which they Do Not Amplify the Engine Sounds. Obviously The Mustang is a Car they Want the Driver to Hear the Engine, Unlike a Fusion or MKZ. But as I said, It Is Not FAKE Sound.

Eh audio over the sound system is fake to me. If I can pull a fuse and make a sound silent it's artificial.

Sound Induction Tube = Natural

Sound System Amplification = Fake

Ps I had your back day one about ACC lower grill lol[emoji41]

 

[aspensilver]

But as I said, It Is Not FAKE Sound.

As an audio engineer myself, I find your firm all-caps comments to be wrong. I think you mean that they aren't playing a recording or synthesizing sound. It is 'fake' in the sense that it is indeed processed. Processed sound, at least to this audio engineer, is non-natural. Perhaps to you that is not fake, but noise cancellation is indeed a form of processing. The sound you are listening to is altered and is in no way an accurate reproduction of the natural audio. To me that is fake, but that word is up for a semantical argument which I won't bother with.

Bottom line noise cancellation is altering the sound, the sound is non-natural. Call it fake, call it altered, whatever. It is not the natural engine sound. Personally I would describe that as being fake, but I could understand if you'd prefer different phrasing, such as 'processed' which emphasizes that it is not a recording or synthesized.

 

[Brent302]

As an audio engineer myself, I find your firm all-caps comments to be wrong. I think you mean that they aren't playing a recording or synthesizing sound. It is 'fake' in the sense that it is indeed processed. Processed sound, at least to this audio engineer, is non-natural. Perhaps to you that is not fake, but noise cancellation is indeed a form of processing. The sound you are listening to is altered and is in no way an accurate reproduction of the natural audio. To me that is fake, but that word is up for a semantical argument which I won't bother with.

Bottom line noise cancellation is altering the sound, the sound is non-natural. Call it fake, call it altered, whatever. It is not the natural engine sound. Personally I would describe that as being fake, but I could understand if you'd prefer different phrasing, such as 'processed' which emphasizes that it is not a recording or synthesized.

Do I get a cookie now you said what I said but with more smarts lol

 

[souprmage]

How about a whole plate of them.

 

[Brent302]

How about a whole plate of them.

YUSSSSSS MINE!!!

 

[Twin Turbo]

Fake, processed, natural............call it what you like, from watching the Fast Lane Car video, the Ecoboost sounded superb to me. Much better than any 4-cylinder should, although it sounded better from the cabin that from the exhaust tip, so that processing is probably doing its thing.

Of course, I'd have to drive one for a final appraisal, but from watching that video, I was very impressed.

Now, it'd be V8 all the way for me, and axle-backs would be one of my first mods, as the Coyote sounds superb with an aftermarket job.

I wonder what the 4-cylinder will sound like once the aftermarket gets hold? Subaru aside, I don't think I've heard a 4-pot that sounds better with an aftermarket exhaust. Louder, yes. Better? No.

 

[Brent302]

It's about as bad as that Renault where you can choose different cars audio to play over your speakers...

 

[JoeDogInKC]

I think it's somewhere in the middle. I don't think that they are making any audio adjustments to make it sound different than it really sounds under the hood, just mic'ing it and using noise cancellation to enhance the sound the engine is making under the hood while you are inside the car.

Now, if they were drastically changing the sound so that it sounded like a v6, had the illusion of a deeper/snarlier note than it really does, that would be "fake" to me.

 

[Brent302]

I think it's somewhere in the middle. I don't think that they are making any audio adjustments to make it sound different than it really sounds under the hood, just mic'ing it and using noise cancellation to enhance the sound the engine is making under the hood while you are inside the car.

Now, if they were drastically changing the sound so that it sounded like a v6, had the illusion of a deeper/snarlier note than it really does, that would be "fake" to me.

I just can't believe the EB owners in denial that there is any artificial Sound pumped through the stereo...wake up people.

 

[JoeDogInKC]

I think the problem is with the definition of "artificial". On one hand it's not quite natural because it's being recorded, amplified and played back through the stereo. On the other hand, it's not being processed to sound like something it's not.

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