Free front swaybar mod

[BMR Tech]

^Yup!

And, that is kinda/sorta how we came up with that rate in the first place. ;)

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[BMR Tech]

Now the question is....will Ford be using this?

For example, will the GT350R or the new Shelby, or Mach 1....or whatever edition they come out with in the future, simply feature a RE-drilled front bar with the end links positioned in other side of the strut mount?

Good stuff.

 

[derieuz]

Where is the original endlink mounting hole (the non strut location)? So essentially we can drill a hole, 2" away from the original swaybar mount in the front and move the endlink to Ford's second location, and the geometry of the suspension will be normal and we will have increased stiffness in the front? Is there any downsides to doing this?

 

[RSKTAKR]

Where is the original endlink mounting hole (the non strut location)? So essentially we can drill a hole, 2" away from the original swaybar mount in the front and move the endlink to Ford's second location, and the geometry of the suspension will be normal and we will have increased stiffness in the front? Is there any downsides to doing this?

the end link mounting bracket that Ford uses from the factory is 90 degrees from the mounting bracket that OP is talking about.. they are both on the strut already.

 

[derieuz]

the end link mounting bracket that Ford uses from the factory is 90 degrees from the mounting bracket that OP is talking about.. they are both on the strut already.

Consider me a noob when it comes to the geometry of this car's suspension, but why exactly do we have to move the endlink's mounting location when modifying the position of the hole on the swaybar?

 

[RSKTAKR]

Hey I'm a noob too.. apparently you want the end link 100% vertical or as close to straight up as possible it appears ..... from what I have read in this thread.

 

[DR_]

Pardon the very crude drawing but I think this will explain it better than I can in words.

 

[BMR Tech]

It's not necessary.

It IS optimal though. The bar will react quicker, technically.

It actually depends on the geometry though. Sometimes an angled end link IS optimal.

For example, if you have an end-link that is mounted at an angle...and the bar is mounted fore/aft of the end link mount, the link should be at an angle. Sometimes, due to space constraints, and other variables, 100% perfect vertically is not viable.

 

[RSKTAKR]

Pardon the very crude drawing but I think this will explain it better than I can in words.

CLEARLY you are an artist M-F I see.. :cheers:

 

[DR_]

CLEARLY you are an artist M-F I see.. :cheers:

Try not to let the secret out :cheers:

 

[derieuz]

Thank you for the drawing above, it helped a ton! So BMR Kelly which position would be optimal for this suspensions geometry? The new mounting hole or the original mounting position? (With the newly drilled sway bar hole)

It's not necessary.

It IS optimal though. The bar will react quicker, technically.

It actually depends on the geometry though. Sometimes an angled end link IS optimal.

For example, if you have an end-link that is mounted at an angle...and the bar is mounted fore/aft of the end link mount, the link should be at an angle. Sometimes, due to space constraints, and other variables, 100% perfect vertically is not viable.

 

[snowman4us]

Yup, so doing this.
Will allow me to do a rear sway bar + this mod and still remain eligible to run FS in autoX as the stock bar remains in place ;)

Thank you

 

[Ryan1112]

Yup, so doing this.
Will allow me to do a rear sway bar + this mod and still remain eligible to run FS in autoX as the stock bar remains in place ;)

Thank you

So I've been thinking about that... I'm not sure if it's really allowed since it's changing the mounting point and it's obviously not in the service manual. As always the SCCA rule book isn't very clear about it.

I wish more clubs would go by NASA rules. So much more fun since there isn't basically a class for every car. The rule book is also much clearer.

 

[Ryan1112]

Here's what the rule book says for the street category. I'm not sure if it's breaking the rules or not. I'm guessing if it doesn't say it can be done then it's not allowed. Thoughts...

13.7 ANTI-ROLL (SWAY) BARS
[FONT=Cambria,Cambria][FONT=Cambria,Cambria]A. Substitution, addition, or removal of a single anti-roll bar and supporting hardware (brackets, endlinks, bushings, etc.) is permitted. The use of any bushing material is permitted. A bushing may be implemented as a bearing.
B. Substitution, addition, or removal of anti-roll bars may serve no other purpose than that of an anti-roll bar.
[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Cambria,Cambria][FONT=Cambria,Cambria]C. No modification to the body, frame, or other components to accommo[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Cambria,Cambria][FONT=Cambria,Cambria]date anti-roll bar addition or substitution is allowed except for the drilling of holes for mounting bolts. Non-standard lateral members which connect between the brackets for the bar are not permitted.
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[snowman4us]

Here's what the rule book says for the street category. I'm not sure if it's breaking the rules or not. I'm guessing if it doesn't say it can be done then it's not allowed. Thoughts...

13.7 ANTI-ROLL (SWAY) BARS
[FONT=Cambria,Cambria][FONT=Cambria,Cambria]A. Substitution, addition, or removal of a single anti-roll bar and supporting hardware (brackets, endlinks, bushings, etc.) is permitted. The use of any bushing material is permitted. A bushing may be implemented as a bearing.
B. Substitution, addition, or removal of anti-roll bars may serve no other purpose than that of an anti-roll bar.
[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Cambria,Cambria][FONT=Cambria,Cambria]C. No modification to the body, frame, or other components to accommo[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Cambria,Cambria][FONT=Cambria,Cambria]date anti-roll bar addition or substitution is allowed except for the drilling of holes for mounting bolts. Non-standard lateral members which connect between the brackets for the bar are not permitted.
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Loop holes are just this, if it does not say you cant do it then it is allowed. :shrug:
Stock bar, stock mounts, no change other then pivot point.

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