Sponsored

ForScan

ORRadtech

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 12, 2019
Threads
25
Messages
4,047
Reaction score
3,982
Location
Atlanta, Georgia
First Name
Dave
Vehicle(s)
18 Mustang EcoBoost convertible, 14 Ford Fusion SE
I worked around Jets for forty years Marine Corps and commercial so the stereo isn't on my list. Lol. I'm used to working out of maintenance manuals and don't understand how one unit acting up generates four warning lights? Isn't that kind of like wiring your house in series? And why have to drive 50 miles for the system to reset itself. I guess I'll be riding the lead float in next year's "Dumb Shit Parade".
It's quite intentional. For one thing, several systems often use the same input signals. For example, the abs, traction control and speedometer all use wheel speed sensors. I would expect that the steering does as well.
And then there are companies who intentionally turn on the MIL and other lights like traction control for completely unrelated problems. As an example, on some Toyotas, an evap code can turn on abs, traction control and disable the ac system. The reasoning, as I understand it, is to basically force the owner to have the repair made rather than ignore certain diagnostic trouble codes by making the car basically undriveable.
Another example from Ford. My daughter neglected her front tires to the point that they damaged the electric steering. Ford's electric steering is very sensitive to tire size and wear. Anyway, her car did not throw a steering code, instead it set a transmission code and forced the car into limp mode.
In short the modern car has sensors and modules interlinked through the CANBUS system in ways it's hard to imagine.
Sponsored

 
OP
OP
FUN2RIDEFAST

FUN2RIDEFAST

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 17, 2019
Threads
89
Messages
889
Reaction score
937
Location
Ofallon, Missouri
First Name
Mike
Vehicle(s)
2017 Mustang GT Premium/PP
Vehicle Showcase
3
It's quite intentional. For one thing, several systems often use the same input signals. For example, the abs, traction control and speedometer all use wheel speed sensors. I would expect that the steering does as well.
And then there are companies who intentionally turn on the MIL and other lights like traction control for completely unrelated problems. As an example, on some Toyotas, an evap code can turn on abs, traction control and disable the ac system. The reasoning, as I understand it, is to basically force the owner to have the repair made rather than ignore certain diagnostic trouble codes by making the car basically undriveable.
Another example from Ford. My daughter neglected her front tires to the point that they damaged the electric steering. Ford's electric steering is very sensitive to tire size and wear. Anyway, her car did not throw a steering code, instead it set a transmission code and forced the car into limp mode.
In short the modern car has sensors and modules interlinked through the CANBUS system in ways it's hard to imagine.
Thanks for the reply
 

Sponsored

K4fxd

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 2, 2020
Threads
121
Messages
13,455
Reaction score
12,262
Location
NKY
First Name
Dan
Vehicle(s)
2017 gt, 2002 FXDWG, 2008 C6,
Unless they changed things the MX+ cannot write changes to the car.

It's nice to be able to reset modules. Ford once told me I needed a new steering rack. I used forscan to reset the steering module and all is working fine. 3 years ago.
 

Garfy

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 4, 2021
Threads
13
Messages
965
Reaction score
608
Location
Utah
First Name
Gary
Vehicle(s)
2020 Mustang GT, 2012 Honda Fit Sport
For me, a good scan tool is much more useful. And versatile.
I'm not much interested in changing or disabling lights, honks or whatever although if you become proficient with Forscan you can do many things the dealer can helping you avoid them for some programing stuff.
For just reading coded there are lots of options. You can even access codes on our cars without any tools at all. Again, this site has the info on doing that.
I prefer using a professional aftermarket scan tool that works on most cars and trucks (except exotics like Ferrari, Lambo, etc.) as they do have bi-directional controls, etc. If they don't support a function, I'd rather not dink with it; if they support it, they've tested it to be sure it works, like programming new keys, TPMS sensors, door modules, etc.
 

ORRadtech

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 12, 2019
Threads
25
Messages
4,047
Reaction score
3,982
Location
Atlanta, Georgia
First Name
Dave
Vehicle(s)
18 Mustang EcoBoost convertible, 14 Ford Fusion SE
I prefer using a professional aftermarket scan tool that works on most cars and trucks (except exotics like Ferrari, Lambo, etc.) as they do have bi-directional controls, etc. If they don't support a function, I'd rather not dink with it; if they support it, they've tested it to be sure it works, like programming new keys, TPMS sensors, door modules, etc.
I agree, they are much more versatile.
Mine doesn't do keys, it might do tpms, I don't remember. At the time I got it I couldn't really afford one of the higher end ones but mine does 90% of what I need. I've got a small O scope that helps too.
Sponsored

 
 








Top