Formula 1 talk.

[Inthehighdesert]

I don’t. Hamilton would have got around for sure. He had more pace, plain and simple. Sainz put up zero opposition as well. Hamilton had more pace in Brazil, it is what it is, can’t take that from him. He had a great performance on Sunday.

Just gonna comment on this line.

You seriously think Bottas could have kept him from passing anyways? If Max could not you know Bottas could not.

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[Inthehighdesert]

Let’s be honest here, NONE of them leave that space. Did Hamilton give Verstappen that space at Silverstone? He did not. And Verstappen was punted in to the safety barrier. It’s complete crap that people bxtch about what happens to there favorite driver except when they do the same very thing.

He certainly wouldn't have taken that line if not defending from Hamilton, he didn't make the corner himself. He out braked himself and ran wide (there was no contact) As Hamilton was on his right (he could see him as he was slightly ahead) by definition his action forced Hamilton off the track as Verstappen left the track himself.

There have been plenty of cases where that would result in a penalty. If that had been a gravel trap they would both have probably been out of the race.

There is a rule that a driver must leave room (a car width) for the other driver on the track which Verstappen clearly didn't.

 

[Bikeman315]

Tell us again who punted Verstappen in to the wall at over a 150mph again? Impact was almost 50 g’s. Your boy Hamilton DID the very thing your attempting to insinuate Verstappen may do. There is only one reason why Rosberg bowed out, and it wasn’t because he just won the championship by beating Hamster.

Caused by Max’s do or die philosophy. He refused to give in and he got punted. The speed and impact although terrible really doesn’t matter, Max walked away. It did make a good sound bite for Horner though. Now the only difference between Silverstone and Brazil is Max refused to give and Lewis did. Otherwise we would have had another Monza (also created by Max’s attitude).

BTW, Your comment about Rosberg is nothing more than foolish speculation.

 

[AdrianMAK]

Did I miss where LH became the Mother Teresa of F1?

 

[Bikeman315]

Did I miss where LH became the Mother Teresa of F1?

Nobody said he was. Yes, I'm a LH fan have been since his F2 days. But I am also a fan of other drivers and of the sport itself. The issue here is twofold. One is the way the FIA and the stewards are handling these incidents. This is a very, very difficult job but there has to be some semblance on equality in the was penalties are handed down. Even Masi admitted that a call couldn't be made on Sunday because they didn't have all of the video information.

The second is Max himself. There is no question that he is a wildly talented driver. But he is still making the same stupid mistakes he made a a rookie. Until is he either realizes and/or is told that his kamikaze driving is going to get someone killed there is going to be repeats of Silverstone, Monza and Brazil.

As far as the incidents themselves......

1. Silverstone. Max refuses to lift because he assumed Lewis will. Well Lewis didn't and Max got punted. Lewis either assumed that Max would lift or he just didn't give a shit. Either we they both could have/ should have received penalties. Only Lewis did.

2. Monza. Lewis should have gone just a little wider (he still was in the racing line). He didn't giving Max what he thought was a momentary opening. Obviously there wasn't and Max landed on Lewis' head. There was no question as to who was in the wrong and Max got the penalty.

Fortunately they both walked away from these potentially harmful incidents.

3. Interlagos. Even other drivers said there was no was Max even tried to turn. He braked too late and ran wide taking Lewis with him. Silverstone in reverse. Except Lewis is a much better racer and gave Max room. Max even admitted that there was no way to keep Lewis behind him so why take the chance to ruin both of their races? Because he is mad Max and doesn't know another way.

 

[Inthehighdesert]

It’s pointless, your to much of a Hamilton fanboy. It’s pretty funny actually.

Caused by Max’s do or die philosophy. He refused to give in and he got punted. The speed and impact although terrible really doesn’t matter, Max walked away. It did make a good sound bite for Horner though. Now the only difference between Silverstone and Brazil is Max refused to give and Lewis did. Otherwise we would have had another Monza (also created by Max’s attitude).

BTW, Your comment about Rosberg is nothing more than foolish speculation.

 

[Inthehighdesert]

You would think so with how some worship him. He’s a fantastic driver, but I was done with his bs when he got in to the race baiting bs.

Did I miss where LH became the Mother Teresa of F1?

 

[AdrianMAK]

Yeah that is a turnoff, he is a great driver. By the numbers the best one ever, but he is like every other great, not squeaky clean, they are gritty, the push limits, and make questionable decisions. Hamilton in that regard is like the rest. You cannot come a crucify Max for doing the same.

 

[ScubaSteve2020]

I would say that this (Interlagos/Silverstone/etc.) is exactly the racing we want to see - push it to the absolute max I mean limit

Max braked later than Lewis meaning Max was ‘actually’ ahead at the apex not Lewis – that means he doesn’t have to leave Lewis a car’s width.

Max knew full well though that when he braked that late, there was no way he would make the corner and that Lewis on the outside would also be forced wide - brilliant precision stuff from both of them

 

[Bikeman315]

I would say that this (Interlagos/Silverstone/etc.) is exactly the racing we want to see - push it to the absolute max I mean limit

Max braked later than Lewis meaning Max was ‘actually’ ahead at the apex not Lewis – that means he doesn’t have to leave Lewis a car’s width.

Max knew full well though that when he braked that late, there was no way he would make the corner and that Lewis on the outside would also be forced wide - brilliant precision stuff from both of them

Cannot disagree with your points. But what if Lewis had not yielded to Max? It would have been Silverstone in reverse. So it is OK for Max to push the limits but not Lewis? And what about the penalties for Lando and Carlos for essentially the same moves.

Well the stewards made their decision so that is that. We move forward. Looking forward to an exciting race at a new venue. But out for those kerbs!

 

[ScubaSteve2020]

Cannot disagree with your points. But what if Lewis had not yielded to Max? It would have been Silverstone in reverse. So it is OK for Max to push the limits but not Lewis? And what about the penalties for Lando and Carlos for essentially the same moves.

Well the stewards made their decision so that is that. We move forward. Looking forward to an exciting race at a new venue. But out for those kerbs!

Yep can't argue with the inconsistency from the stewards - it needs to be consistent/uniform and fair - but geared towards allowing hard (but fair) racing - let's face it, this is the best most competitive season of F1 racing we've seen in years - Very entertaining!!!

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Anyone else disturbed by Hamilton wearing a rainbow helmet celebrating God's promise to the Hebrews to never again flood the earth?

 

[XeninWorX]

So some penalties were just handed to Verstappen and Bottas for ignoring single and double yellow flags even though the drivers didn’t see them as they weren’t shown in track or in the car.

So now it should be Hamilton, Gasly, Alonso and Norris on the front rows.

 

[Bikeman315]

Anyone else disturbed by Hamilton wearing a rainbow helmet celebrating God's promise to the Hebrews to never again flood the earth?

Nope. At 69 years of age I no longer have the energy to waste on concerning myself on what other people do.

 

[Bikeman315]

So some penalties were just handed to Verstappen and Bottas for ignoring single and double yellow flags even though the drivers didn’t see them as they weren’t shown in track or in the car.

So now it should be Hamilton, Gasly, Alonso and Norris on the front rows.

Geez, what a cluster f-ck. Well, at least, the stewards showed some consistency this time. It‘s going to be fun watching Max as you know he going to drive like a madman.

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