Ford performance power pack 2

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    I'm thinking to go PP2 and pedalmax because I have no qualms with this car from 3000 rpm and up (feel it pulls nicely, PP 3.73 gears), from 0-3000, especially when I am cruising around 1800 RPM, it feels dead, and the pedal response is super slow.

    Think the PP2 tune and pedalmax or pedal commander would wake this coyote the hell up?
     
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    Yeah just lost about 1/3 of my brain cells reading that.
     
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    The pedalmax wont increase your pedal response. It will just give you a touchier gas pedal. The lag youre feeling in low rpm is built into the software not the gas pedal in the form of Torque Management intervening and cutting torque. The pp2 is able to get 40 or 50 ft lbs at 1500rpm by basically disabling torque management making the pedalmax worthless. Also you have a pp car which makes the pedalmax even more worthless because when you select sport mode it does literally the exact same thing that the pedalmax does. Save your money, its overpriced by about 10 times anyway.
     
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    The way the ECU requests load and torque involves several different variables and tables, which include the usual suspects like spark, fueling, throttle input, etc.

    Additional maps less commonly discussed are in place to save the drive train (torque management), but also give the driver and the vehicle occupants a smoother more refined feel.

    The Ford Performance tune likely modifies these tables to give an OEM feel, while still increasing the power output. On the contrary, third party tuners sometimes disable these maps. The result in an "more raw" feel but that comes with an increased sensation of drivetrain slop, audible clanks and bangs, abrupt throttle inputs, and overall a less refined driving experience.

    I say skip the pedalmax as it wont fix the issue you are trying to resolve, and enjoy your Ford Performance tune. It is better than a lot of alternatives.
     
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    Let's put it this way. Since I did the Ford Handling Pack plus PP2, I no longer long for a GT350. Enough said. My car is absolutely everything I wanted now.
     
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    I just ordered my PP2 from Autonation. $581 plus $29 shipping.
     
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    Very happy with my PP2, and dumped the Pedal Commander. It’s what the car should have had from factory, with the Track handling pack.
     
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    Dyno results 465D87FA-96B0-49C1-97F1-8B1B62C9DA8E.jpeg
     
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    Agree! That’s what they should sell as the Performance Pack.
     
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    Does this increase the redline? I've seen info that say it does, and others that don't mention it.
     
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    Yes to 7500
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    The Stage 1 power pack that I had for 3 weeks before i got my whipple raised the redline to 7300. The stage 2 raises it to 7500 i believe.
     
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    #34 bldog50, Jan 11, 2019 at 8:34 PM
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    Has anyone had any issues with the Power Pack 2? Ever since I had mine installed, it makes a clicking sound when I accelerate. Its only at lower RPMs when this happens (like around 1200-2500). I havent been able to find much info on this issue except for one other person. I was told to try a different gas station like Shell but still having the same issue. No CEL or anything like and I only use 91.
     
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    It could be a bit of ping. That doesn’t necessarily mean there’s something drastically wrong, though. I have PP3 and run 91 and under load at lower rpms I’ll hear a little rattle that goes away with revs. Most noticeable if there’s a wall or truck next to you to reflect the sound. Mostly happens on warmer days (higher IAT). Ford likes to push the timing to and slightly beyond the hairy edge of knock...even on stock engines (manual: “Do not be concerned if your engine sometimes knocks lightly”). I’ve spoken to FP and they swear it’s normal, and I personally believe them. I haven’t read posts from PowerP users who’ve experienced engine problems related to pinging. But if you’re still concerned definitely talk to FP or get other 91 users opinions to see if your car is behaving as expected or not.
    BTW I’ve spoken to gas station fueling truck drivers who’ve told me the 91 and lower octane lines get mistaken once in a while.
     
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    If you are going forced induction I would suggest doing that first. You would want to make sure the cold air kit fits on the blower and you have the tune cost also. We have some great deals on whipple installs. We have 8000$ for 18-19 mustang GT and for forum members 7600$ if you ask for me my name is Jake. Also on 15-17 mustang GT 7500$ and 7100$ for forum members. If you have any questions call me at 313-561-5500 thank you.
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    Thanks for the info!
     
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    Power pack 2 makes it feel like it should have come from the factory. The difference is quite a bit more than I expected. I had a 1st gen coyote/BAMA tuned and that's got nothing on how PP2 woke up this motor.
     
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