Ford Oil Cooler - anyone install?

[Hadelson]

Car is garaged for the winter. Considering installing this

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[robvas]

Do you have issues with oil temp or are you just doing it to do it?

There's a few threads about aftermarket and the Ford oil cooler

oil-cooler-setup-thoughts-and-questions.19355

https://www.mustang6g.com/forums/threads/do-we-actually-need-an-oil-cooler.180890/

 

[EFI]

Seeing as how it's mainly for a 24+, I doubt very many people on here actually installed it. You may want to check on the 7G website. Although I'm sure it can be made to fit, I imagine most people go with some sort of aftermarket unit if they are going to have to fiddle with it.

 

[rijndael]

I installed one on my S650.

 

[Hadelson]

I installed one on my S650.

Any issues with the install? What was the temp difference and if any drop in pressure?

Thanks

 

[rijndael]

The underbelly pan on the S650 needed a little trimming to account for the backet. I don't think an S550 would have it that issue. As part of the install, I cut holes in the fender liner to allow air flow through the cooler. I tried an aftermarket fender liner, because the OEM PP lines weren't available, but that wasn't great in quality and it tore from tire contact.

I have measured temps of 148F vs 183F on the hoses coming out of the filter housing. So, it's working. I typically see about a 25-30 degree drop across the cooler tubes, from one side to the other. Since our oil temp is inferred, and not measured directly, there's no way update the algorithm, yet. But, it does factor in head temps and pressure, which are measured.

I do see an idle oil pressure change. Before it would idle in the lower 20s, now it's in the upper 20s, for daily driving. That make sense if the temps are cooler, IMO.

 

[Hadelson]

The underbelly pan on the S650 needed a little trimming to account for the backet. I don't think an S550 would have it that issue. As part of the install, I cut holes in the fender liner to allow air flow through the cooler. I tried an aftermarket fender liner, because the OEM PP lines weren't available, but that wasn't great in quality and it tore from tire contact.

I have measured temps of 148F vs 183F on the hoses coming out of the filter housing. So, it's working. I typically see about a 25-30 degree drop across the cooler tubes, from one side to the other. Since our oil temp is inferred, and not measured directly, there's no way update the algorithm, yet. But, it does factor in head temps and pressure, which are measured. I do see an idle oil pressure change. Before it would idle in the lower 20s, now it's in the upper 20s, for daily driving. That make sense if the temps are cooler, IMO.

Thanks

 

[luc]

The underbelly pan on the S650 needed a little trimming to account for the backet. I don't think an S550 would have it that issue. As part of the install, I cut holes in the fender liner to allow air flow through the cooler. I tried an aftermarket fender liner, because the OEM PP lines weren't available, but that wasn't great in quality and it tore from tire contact.

I have measured temps of 148F vs 183F on the hoses coming out of the filter housing. So, it's working. I typically see about a 25-30 degree drop across the cooler tubes, from one side to the other. Since our oil temp is inferred, and not measured directly, there's no way update the algorithm, yet. But, it does factor in head temps and pressure, which are measured.

I do see an idle oil pressure change. Before it would idle in the lower 20s, now it's in the upper 20s, for daily driving. That make sense if the temps are cooler, IMO.

If 148 to 183 is the temperature coming out of the engine, before the oil cooler, it’s way too cold and not good for the engine
Oil need to reach at least 212* to boil out/remove the moisture from the oil
This moisture is a normal byproduct of the combustion with a cold engine

 

[rijndael]

It's the temp on the outside of the cooler hoses, not the actual oil temp.

The oil cooler has a thermal valve in it anyway, it blocks off the cooler below 204F.

 

[Beaujangles]

I am also curious as to the opinions/experiences on the use of this setup as I have one in a box which my "go to shop" was reluctant to install when we went boosted on my Bullitt, as the car wasn't going to be a track car...

 

[rijndael]

As long as the oil cooler is thermastatically controlled, and the Ford unit is, what's the down side?

My car, without the AC on, would run in the low 230s without doing much. I mention the AC because it makes a noticable difference in (calculated) oil temp on my car.

I would note that the temp in the oil pan is not the temp at the bearings.

 

[luc]

As long as the oil cooler is thermastatically controlled, and the Ford unit is, what's the down side?

My car, without the AC on, would run in the low 230s without doing much. I mention the AC because it makes a noticable difference in (calculated) oil temp on my car.

I would note that the temp in the oil pan is not the temp at the bearings.

So you believe a charts created by people that sell coolers???
Lot of wrong info in it
175 and 195 temperatures equal long engine life????

 

[rijndael]

Lot of wrong info in it

Please provide any contrarian datapoints.

175 and 195 temperatures equal long engine life????

Pan Temp or Bearing/Ring/Etc temp?

 

[WItoTX]

I wouldn't mess with the work needed to do a stock cooler. Just go aftermarket. And I'd only do that if there was a need, like seeing really high temps.

 

[luc]

Please provide any contrarian datapoints.



Pan Temp or Bearing/Ring/Etc temp?

Easy, pan
Engine only last 6k miles at 255*
and 12k miles at 235 *
100% bs

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