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Bro really. Wow can you be mad at ford when you modded your car that changed the Ecu and had stuff that put more boost in the car. Really come on man. You screwed up and just face it. Not ford fault you modded your car to the point your blew it up. Sorry to be a prick but get over it. Maybe next time you won't mod your car if you want it to stay under warranty.
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I knew they were going to deny your warranty as soon as you said you had a tune on it. Everyone, everywhere keeps touting the Magnuson-Moss act to be your shield and savior. All the dealer/manufacturer has to do is say is (insert mod/reason here) caused it, and now its really up to YOU to prove that it wasn't. Either way, it's not going to be a walk in the park. Honestly, I would only mod a car in such a way that even has a remote chance of blowing the motor(like a tune) if I could afford to pay for a new engine in case you get your warranty denied, like in your case. Even then, I would wait until the powertrain warranty was used up, and mod the engine how I like, and if it blows then you just rebuild the motor, and at least you had factory warranty for however long you originally had it for.

Good luck to you man, and listen to everyone else here and use what advice you can.
 

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It's interesting to see that people here think Ford needs to prove anything... Proof is right there - any single piece added to engine that is supposed to increase hp/tq (which all of them were) can be easily used as a proof it caused a failure. Their engineers can come with a hundreds of scenarios how this could happen (I could and I'm not the piston engine guy, worked turbine engines for 15 years).

So while obviously it sucks of OP, I'm not sure why everybody is surprised warranty got denied...
 

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^^^^^ What he said ^^^^^^

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Have you ever hired a technical expert to tare down an engine to analyze the cause of the failure and then with that information hire a lawyer to go after FORD.

I can assure you that would be a far greater expense with a questionable outcome then just coming up with 5K to replace your damaged engine,
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vehicle already had a known, documented oil leak.

damage likely occurred from said leaking.

you were told it was ok to drive it.

i dont see the issue here.
 

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Isn't there a way to determine what exactly caused the failure before denying warranty out of hand? If, for instance, the oil leak caused oil starvation which robbed the bearings of oil that will be apparent in chatter marks and scoring. That would be unrelated to boost.
But to be the devils advocate, excess combustion chamber pressures as a result of a tune could cause bearing distress on the rod and main bearings.
 

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If the OP hears from Ford what they think the root cause was, I hope he can post up the details. When they tear the engine down, they should be able to tell if it was an oiling problem or not, or if it was caused by an over-boost situation. I would also think the ECU has recorded and stored what the max boost pressure was.
 
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I've been talking to a lot of people about this trying to get as much information as I can. I want to be as educated on this as possible so I can give it my best shot. I've now talked to two different companies (not to be named at this time) that have told me these engines are blowing up bone stock in the exact same way mine did. It's pistons and rods blowing holes in the bottom of the engine block. I've also found out that Ford doesn't have complete engine assemblies available. They're on backorder with no ETA. The guys I talked to have yet to hear of Ford not honoring the warranty though. They've had customer cars with mods and bone stock and they were covered. I believe it's all about the dealership, mine was not willing to go to bat for me on this.
 

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I've now talked to two different companies (not to be named at this time) that have told me these engines are blowing up bone stock in the exact same way mine did. It's pistons and rods blowing holes in the bottom of the engine block.
Ouch ... did anyone say why they think it's happening?
 

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Ouch ... did anyone say why they think it's happening?
Faulty components, possibly warped heads. Ford hasn't said exactly what issues they're having but they're having engine issues with the Focus RS using the same engine. They talked about it in their last video.

 

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It's a shame but stuff happens.

Over the years I've had customers ask whether to get a tune or not, upgrade the turbo or not and much more.

I've always said the same thing. If you can't afford to pay out of pocket to get a new motor, ecu or whatever it may be, don't do it.

In your situation I believe one of two things happened.

One is that it was indeed a faulty motor and had a loose rod bolt, perhaps loose oil pickup which caused oil starvation or 2 your Boostmax tuner over boosted in some way that slightly bent a rod or tweaked something.

Then it was only a matter of time.

It's a shame that this happened to you and I hope it works out.
 

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I'll be leaving mine stock this time.

Thanks for posting and sorry about your misfortune.
 
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I'm having a really hard time believing that my mods caused this. With cases of completely stock engines having the same problem to the same engines being modded out with larger turbos making over 400WHP. Everyone I talk to that knows more about this stuff than I do does not believe I could blow the motor with these mods. The computer would protect from overboost situations and if for some reason it didn't it would blow the turbo up well before the engine would give out.
 

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I'm having a really hard time believing that my mods caused this. With cases of completely stock engines having the same problem to the same engines being modded out with larger turbos making over 400WHP. Everyone I talk to that knows more about this stuff than I do does not believe I could blow the motor with these mods. The computer would protect from overboost situations and if for some reason it didn't it would blow the turbo up well before the engine would give out.
Like it was said before by someone else. It's now *your* responsibility to prove your mods didn't cause this.

This is the exact reason why I will NOT be putting any sort of tune on my yet-to-be-delivered new car. They won't void your warranty for a cat back or an air filter.
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