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[ShelbyGT350]

Dude I'm getting sick of your post, at no time are you accurate or informative. You have added zero information. Everytime I read your post, I think of the movie Billy Madison where Billy's rant made everyone in the room stupider...

The only reason is larger displacement? Are you sure of that? So if I put a 10L on here maybe we can offer a pump gas 2000hp kit using your logic? It has nothing to do with inlet flow, manifold design, calibration or anything else? Bro get real.

Ford doesn't use is? Did you see the 2016 Cobra Jet? Hmmmmmm funny that don't use us but somehow they are using us. What about future, do you have any idea about what's going on? Nope you don't so again your extreme inaccurate.

Next time you post, maybe pause and think, is this going to be incredibly inaccurate with absolutely zero value to all? If so, don't post.

Maybe if the Whipple fanboys didn't constantly trash Edelbrock on a thread about Edelbrock, we might feel differently. But every single time people ask about the Edelbrock, all the Whipple fanboys do is bad-mouth it. Question is, have they ever installed it, didn't like it, got rid of it, and got a Whipple instead? That would be interesting. Personally, I'm not looking for maximum horsepower, but overall drivability and longevity of the motor and S/C. I'm also not going to be drag racing the car.

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[Phoenix]

Here's your 520RWHP Whipple Stage 1 w/Manual Transmission:

buddy. just stop. seriously. its for your own good.

 

[daltron]

Here's your 520RWHP Whipple Stage 1 w/Manual Transmission:

From the shop owner lol:

Another thing you should keep in mind, the USA folks normally talk in Dynojet horse power, those dynos read approx 13 - 15% higher than our sort of dyno. This car would run around 640 - 650 rwhp on a Dynojet dyno and about the same on a hub dyno. All in the details.. hope that makes sense.

EDIT: And that's not even the Whipple tune I think...

 

[daltron]

Maybe if the Whipple fanboys didn't constantly trash Edelbrock on a thread about Edelbrock, we might feel differently. But every single time people ask about the Edelbrock, all the Whipple fanboys do is bad-mouth it. Question is, have they ever installed it, didn't like it, got rid of it, and got a Whipple instead? That would be interesting. Personally, I'm not looking for maximum horsepower, but overall drivability and longevity of the motor and S/C. I'm also not going to be drag racing the car.

I am not sure if anyone provides a manufacturer supplied tune with better driveability than Whipple.

 

[Superman15]

Maybe if the Whipple fanboys didn't constantly trash Edelbrock on a thread about Edelbrock, we might feel differently. But every single time people ask about the Edelbrock, all the Whipple fanboys do is bad-mouth it. Question is, have they ever installed it, didn't like it, got rid of it, and got a Whipple instead? That would be interesting. Personally, I'm not looking for maximum horsepower, but overall drivability and longevity of the motor and S/C. I'm also not going to be drag racing the car.

Just curious, aren't you the dude who doesn't even own an s550? Pretty sure you are the one who opened the other Edelbrock thread, if I remember correctly. And in the end, after all your comments, you advised the audience that you didn't have an s550 to put a SC on.

 

[Phoenix]

Just curious, aren't you the dude who doesn't even own an s550? Pretty sure you are the one who opened the other Edelbrock thread, if I remember correctly. And in the end, after all your comments, you advised the audience that you didn't have an s550 to put a SC on.

yep

I own a 1970 Mach 1 351C Cobra Jet. Been looking for the right very lightly used 2016 GT. Don't want to take the first hit on the depreciation.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1348386&postcount=49

 

[GSLSE20B]

Thanks for sharing. I hadn't seen that. However, if you look at the information in the lower right hand part of the screen, it says that information is for a 3.5L EB F-150, not a 5.0L Mustang where the 523HP graph is shown. Let's get the information correct before we post it.

Are you blind ?

 

[Evolvd]

So if someone were to read only this thread an Edlebrock stage 1 puts down similar power to a Whipple stage 1.

Of course there are other things to look at like boost and timing....

 

[daltron]

So if someone were to read only this thread an Edlebrock stage 1 puts down similar power to a Whipple stage 1.

That is incorrect.

 

[Phoenix]

Here is the deal.

you can buy the edelbrock TVS if you want. no one is stopping you. but know this.

you simply arent going to make the same power for what you pay compared to Kenne Bell, whipple, procharger, vortech, turbos or any other forced induction out there. its a poorly designed system to answer a question that no one asked.

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[Whipple SC]

Maybe if the Whipple fanboys didn't constantly trash Edelbrock on a thread about Edelbrock, we might feel differently. But every single time people ask about the Edelbrock, all the Whipple fanboys do is bad-mouth it. Question is, have they ever installed it, didn't like it, got rid of it, and got a Whipple instead? That would be interesting. Personally, I'm not looking for maximum horsepower, but overall drivability and longevity of the motor and S/C. I'm also not going to be drag racing the car.

There is a reason people like the product, it works very well.

I'm not bashing the Edelbrock, I have said countless times it's a nice kit and innovative. Does it compare to ours? No it does not. Can it make the same power? No it cannot. Can it compare in drive ability and reliability at similar power level, no it cannot. Does it have all the features included in ours, no it cannot.

These are facts, not myths. It doesn't take away from the kit, its a nice system. But HP vs dollor, added feature vs dollar, upgrade capacity vs dollar, etc. it does not compare to many others. Everyone states that everytime. You say, drive-ability. You realize this is the calibration, not the supercharger. It's a mechanical device, it will reasonable amount of air. Drive-ability comes from the PCM and I'm sorry, but using aftermarket tools, you simply cannot duplicate our cal. Can one make a cal better via aftermarket tools for someone's needs or desires? No question, Lund and Ken at PBD do it everyday and quite well. In general, aftermarket tools limit the cal process and therefore the cals vary significantly, meaning many have to "tweak" the cal to stop surging, idle, shifting, etc. They get it right 99.9% of the time, but that is how the aftermarket tools and companies have to do it since not all are given full tools or engineering support with full tools.

So every time you make some claim, it has been highly in accurate. Yes, WE ALL KNOW that if you were going to SC a S550, you would get an Edelbrock and we all support your decision. But if someone is asking about info and others have already done the research, they are lending there thoughts, facts and opinions to help the person asking. If many feel ours is best, then that's the popular opinion. If they say it's Procharger, or whatever, that's what they feel. In many cases, they have a valid reason for that thought.

 

[Whipple SC]

So if someone were to read only this thread an Edlebrock stage 1 puts down similar power to a Whipple stage 1.

Of course there are other things to look at like boost and timing....

They are roughly 110RWHP down when comparing stage 1 to stage 1.

 

[Evolvd]

Love the info exchange, always respected Whipple for their presence here.

I'm still curious as to what this kit will make on 93 with 9 lbs of boost and a good tune. I'm sure it'll happen eventually.

 

[ShelbyGT350]

There is a reason people like the product, it works very well.

I'm not bashing the Edelbrock, I have said countless times it's a nice kit and innovative. Does it compare to ours? No it does not. Can it make the same power? No it cannot. Can it compare in drive ability and reliability at similar power level, no it cannot. Does it have all the features included in ours, no it cannot.

These are facts, not myths. It doesn't take away from the kit, its a nice system. But HP vs dollor, added feature vs dollar, upgrade capacity vs dollar, etc. it does not compare to many others. Everyone states that everytime. You say, drive-ability. You realize this is the calibration, not the supercharger. It's a mechanical device, it will reasonable amount of air. Drive-ability comes from the PCM and I'm sorry, but using aftermarket tools, you simply cannot duplicate our cal. Can one make a cal better via aftermarket tools for someone's needs or desires? No question, Lund and Ken at PBD do it everyday and quite well. In general, aftermarket tools limit the cal process and therefore the cals vary significantly, meaning many have to "tweak" the cal to stop surging, idle, shifting, etc. They get it right 99.9% of the time, but that is how the aftermarket tools and companies have to do it since not all are given full tools or engineering support with full tools.

So every time you make some claim, it has been highly in accurate. Yes, WE ALL KNOW that if you were going to SC a S550, you would get an Edelbrock and we all support your decision. But if someone is asking about info and others have already done the research, they are lending there thoughts, facts and opinions to help the person asking. If many feel ours is best, then that's the popular opinion. If they say it's Procharger, or whatever, that's what they feel. In many cases, they have a valid reason for that thought.

No, that's the problem. All of the Whipple Fanboys think I'm an idiot and can't respect the fact that there are different opinions out there. As far as my post today, all I did was read the freaking installation manuals. Have ANY of them put on an Edelbrock supercharger, didn't like it, then put on a Whipple and were pleased? I'd really like to know. If they haven't experienced it personally, then please don't comment. I want to keep an open mind and until I do install it, you won't hear from me anymore. I'm tired of the abuse.

 

[daltron]

No, that's the problem. All of the Whipple Fanboys think I'm an idiot and can't respect the fact that there are different opinions out there. As far as my post today, all I did was read the freaking installation manuals. Have ANY of them put on an Edelbrock supercharger, didn't like it, then put on a Whipple and were pleased? I'd really like to know. If they haven't experienced it personally, then please don't comment. I want to keep an open mind and until I do install it, you won't hear from me anymore. I'm tired of the abuse.

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