driving automatic

[6G]

It's pretty much been proven the 3.15 autos are the fastest.

Source? I can't seem to find such proof anywhere.

Sponsored

 

[BlueThunder]

"Sport Mode" on the toggles changes the automatic shift points (and maybe the throttle map) but if you leave the shifter in D it will still override the paddles after a few moments. If you pull the shifter into S (in any of the Toggle modes), then the paddle shifters really control. It holds gears without many exceptions (it will shift down if you slow enough that the gear you are in won't work, like 15 in 6th. And it shifts to 1st when you stop.)

That's how I DD it most of the time, just the shifter in S. Paddles for the upshifts, then just let it downshift on its own by speed, though you can paddle downshift too (I like to double tap from 6th to 4th to get a nice roar from the exhaust at times). Only way to do it in traffic with the automatic in any of the sport modes IMO, otherwise without paddles the downshifts are terrible, and on the ups you can wind up holding 5k RPMs in a gear in slow traffic (feels and sounds stupid). I still prefer toggle sport (no paddles) for take-offs and true open road driving. I'd assume (guessing here) course/track guys use the paddles too.

 

[Dominant1]

Yeah but with a good tune and a torque converter you can leave it in drive the whole time and the car will respond much quicker and shift much firmer perfectly to redline each time! Great for 1/4 mile runs!

 

[Medsport]

"Sport Mode" on the toggles changes the automatic shift points (and maybe the throttle map) but if you leave the shifter in D it will still override the paddles after a few moments. If you pull the shifter into S (in any of the Toggle modes), then the paddle shifters really control. It holds gears without many exceptions (it will shift down if you slow enough that the gear you are in won't work, like 15 in 6th. And it shifts to 1st when you stop.)

So the S on the shifter is different than the sport mode on the toggles? Also what happens if you put it in S in sport mode+?

 

[BlueThunder]

So the S on the shifter is different than the sport mode on the toggles? Also what happens if you put it in S in sport mode+?

I don't think we've seen anybody definitively nail it down, nor does the manual state it. Somebody on another thread put together a matrix showing all the modes on the automatic and it's pretty accurate IMO.

The toggle switch puts the car into sport-mode which enhances the shift points (holds gears until max output/RPM before shifting) as well as loosens up the traction control. The car stays fully automatic (you can use the paddles but the computer takes over again a few seconds later). Sucks balls in traffic due to holding the gears and the rough downshifts.

Putting the shifter in S without touching the paddles gives you the same shift-points at the toggle switch, though I don't think it messes with your traction control. However, once you touch a paddle, you're in paddle mode, meaning you need to hit the paddle to upshift or you'll dry-hump the rev limiter (car will still automatically downshift based on speed so it doesn't bog/stall).

I think combining the 2 (shifter in S and toggle into Sport+) gives you the paddle control+loosens the traction control if you're goofing around on the highway/street racing/fooling around. (Edit: I think this is correct because when I first started playing with it I remember doing both and fish-tailing a bit in 1st)

 

[AZ_Ryan]

I believe the shift points and throttle mapping in both sport modes are identical. But the toggle sport mode does give you tighter steering feel. I don't think you get that with the shifter sport mode. I also don't think using the using the toggle sport mode and the shifter sport mode at the same time gives you anything different than just being in toggle sport mode tuning wise. Keep in mind the primary use behind the shifter sport mode is the ability to use the paddle shifters for full manual shift control. You can't do that in the toggle modes.

 

[2015 Silver GT]

Source? I can't seem to find such proof anywhere.

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16739


:headbonk:

 

[Rickycardo]

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16739


:headbonk:

Yes you are correct. The fastest 3 cars running bone stock all run 3.55 gears. The fastest run with 3.15s also included weight reduction.
10 of the top 20 times are cars with 3.55 gears while only 6 cars have 3.15gears.
Honestly the times are close enough together that the difference most likely can be attributed to driver skill.

 

[2015 Silver GT]

Yes you are correct. The fastest 3 cars running bone stock all run 3.55 gears. The fastest run with 3.15s also included weight reduction.
10 of the top 20 times are cars with 3.55 gears while only 6 cars have 3.15gears.

And the modified list is dominated by 3.15's. And the majority of us don't keep our cars stock.

 

[Sal33n]

And the modified list is dominated by 3.15's. And the majority of us don't keep our cars stock.

You are just proving my point then.

His blanket statement was "It's pretty much been proven the 3.15 autos are the fastest."

And the answer is still "there are way too many variables to make such a statement."

 

[6G]

http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16739


:headbonk:

Yes, I've already looked at that. That's why I asked his source because the link above shows that the top 3 fastest bome stock cars had 3.55 gears. So i'm still confused on how 3.15's are proven tp be faster than 3.55. (Just for the record, I personally think that there are too many variables to have a definite answer). So yeah, still confused lol. Even the Bolt on list doesn't have a definite answer; it's a good mix of 3.15, 3.55, and 3.73's. Times on that are also way too close to have a definite answer. And of course, we all know boosted cars benefit from longer gears. So can't really factor that in.

 

[dotJake]

I don't think we've seen anybody definitively nail it down, nor does the manual state it. Somebody on another thread put together a matrix showing all the modes on the automatic and it's pretty accurate IMO.

I posted about this when my car was new. [MENTION=19308]jasonstang[/MENTION] helped me out and this is what we came up with. OG post here

[B]Mode    Shifter   Throttle   Shift Points   Paddles  Manual  Traction Ctl   Steering Ctl[/B]
Normal  S         Sport      Sport          Yes      Yes     Normal         Normal
Sport+  D         Sport      Sport          Yes      No      Sport          Sport
Sport+  S         Sport      Sport          Yes      Yes     Sport          Sport

 

[Rickycardo]

And the modified list is dominated by 3.15's. And the majority of us don't keep our cars stock.

Sorry, logical fallacy.

 

[jbailer]

It's pretty much been proven the 3.15 autos are the fastest.

That statement doesn't mean anything. If a V6 beat a GT at the track, it doesn't mean V6s are faster.

If you took the same car with the same driver and changed from 3.15 to 3.55 gears, the 3.55 would be faster. I'm over simplifying, there are other factors but for drag, it's a pretty simple rule as long as you aren't running out.

 

[2015 Silver GT]

If you took the same car with the same driver and changed from 3.15 to 3.55 gears, the 3.55 would be faster.

Actually no. The 3.55's would cause a shift into 4th before crossing the traps dropping you out of your powerband.

Heck with your logic we should all just jam in some 4.56's right? Because those would be faster. :eyebulge:

Sponsored