2017 GT Premium Auto - Sport+ vs S mode question

dotJake · Jul 12, 2016

New car, still playing with all the different modes but I can't figure out the difference between Sport+ mode and dropping the shifter into S.

They both seem to arouse similar (maybe identical) throttle, shift point and RPM behavior. I think so far Sport+ tightens the steering and S enables the paddle shifters, but perhaps Sport+ allows that, too. Haven't tried that yet.

Are these really the same? I doubt it, but does anybody know about this in more detail?

Thanks.

jasonstang · Jul 12, 2016

If you have in Sport+ but shifter in D, the paddles will not stay in manual mode unless you have the shifter in S.
Shifter in S: sport throttle response, sport shift points with the ability to use manual paddles and staying in manual mode, normal traction control.
Sport+: sport throttle response, sport shift points with ability to use manual paddles, sport traction control, sport steering wheel.

dotJake · Jul 12, 2016

jasonstang said:
If you have in Sport+ but shifter in D, the paddles will not stay in manual mode unless you have the shifter in S.
Shifter in S: sport throttle response, sport shift points with the ability to use manual paddles and staying in manual mode, normal traction control.
Sport+: sport throttle response, sport shift points with ability to use manual paddles, sport traction control, sport steering wheel.

OK, thanks for the info. So like this?

Code:

[B]Mode    Shifter   Throttle   Shift Points   Paddles   Traction Ctl   Steering Ctl[/B]
Normal  S         Sport      Sport          Yes       Normal         Normal
Sport+  D         Sport      Sport          Yes       Sport          Sport
Sport+  S         Sport      Sport          Yes       Sport          Sport

jasonstang · Jul 12, 2016

dotJake said:
OK, thanks for the info. So like this?

Pretty much.

Blk2015GT · Jul 12, 2016

Just FYI the paddles will still work in D/Sport+. Dont accidentally hit the downshift it will catch you off guard. The computer picks it back up right away though.

dotJake · Jul 12, 2016

Blk2015GT said:
Just FYI the paddles will still work in D/Sport+. Dont accidentally hit the downshift it will catch you off guard. The computer picks it back up right away though.

Updated! Thanks.

jasonstang · Jul 12, 2016

dotJake said:
Updated! Thanks.

More like this.

Code:

[B]Mode    Shifter   Throttle   Shift Points   Paddles  Manual  Traction Ctl   Steering Ctl[/B]
Normal  S         Sport      Sport          Yes      Yes     Normal         Normal
Sport+  D         Sport      Sport          Yes      No      Sport          Sport
Sport+  S         Sport      Sport          Yes      Yes     Sport          Sport

Blk2015GT · Jul 12, 2016

Agreed. You wont get MANUAL paddles in D/Sport+ but the definitely still will operate and shift. Found it out the hard way when the car was new and downshifted by accident in D/Sport+ and got a good jerk forward in the seat

16 GT MM/Auto · Jul 15, 2016

Great thread, very helpful.

Sport+ D really wakes up the sluggish response of Normal D, but the hanging rpm's gets tiresome. Will probably end up using Normal S most of the time.

Old 5 Oh · Jul 17, 2016

16 GT MM/Auto said:
Great thread, very helpful.

Sport+ D really wakes up the sluggish response of Normal D, but the hanging rpm's gets tiresome. Will probably end up using Normal S most of the time.

Normal S has the same hanging gear issues. Great on secondary roads, kinda irritating in town. My favorite is Normal S with manual shifting. That way I force it to upshift when cruising, but can keep the revs up a bit so the cat back sounds nice. When the AT dives for 1400 RPM, there's just too much lugging/droning. Keep it over 2000 and it's much more pleasant. 3ed gear is just great in our traffic. I let it sit there a lot.

16 GT MM/Auto · Jul 17, 2016

Old 5 Oh said:
Normal S has the same hanging gear issues. Great on secondary roads, kinda irritating in town.

Yes sir, you are correct. I drove it again shortly after posting and went "Oops, trans is S while in Normal mode does the same thing."

My favorite is Normal S with manual shifting.

If I wanted to shift manually, I would've gotten the stick!

I think I'll just leave it in Normal D, and use the others as needed.

Dominant1 · Jul 17, 2016

I drive in track all the time, best throttle response, more aggressive rev matching with down shifts! Car feels less restrained!

16 GT MM/Auto · Jul 17, 2016

Yes, it's more responsive. But the rpm hanging gets to me in normal driving.

dotJake · Jul 17, 2016

16 GT MM/Auto said:
If I wanted to shift manually, I would've gotten the stick!

^^^ this... Kinda... My wife doesn't drive manuals. So for me, the auto with the option for "paddling" gears was a perfect middle ground. On the occasions we need to swap cars it's a plus.

16 GT MM/Auto · Jul 18, 2016

dotJake said:
^^^ this... Kinda... My wife doesn't drive manuals. So for me, the auto with the option for "paddling" gears was a perfect middle ground. On the occasions we need to swap cars it's a plus.

A happy wife is a happy ...

lol

Back in the day when I bought new Fox body 5.0's, my ex was never interested in driving manual trans cars and I wasn't interested in the half a second acceleration penalty of the auto. So they were all sticks.

Today, the auto is quicker! If she only knew ...

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