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I finished installing some lights in the grill of my Mach 1, and thought I'd post up what I went thru and things I discovered.

The plastic blanking plugs really bothered me. I HAD to do something. I did not like the 4-pod led's that I've seen out there... just didnt match the factory front end lighting.

First, I bought a kit that available on ebay. The light housings looked OK, but didnt really match the look of the existing front lights. These came with regular halogen lamps, so I tried some Sealight LEDs, and the light pattern was just a spread out mess. Most reflectors made for incandescent lamps do not work well with LEDs. I discovered that these lights were units that are available for about $35 as factory replacements for several vehicles. I just wasn't crazy about em, and it wasnt the look I wanted. Also in the same kit was a switch that I didnt like from the get-go. It was large (like 1" x 3/4"?)and rectangular and was just way too Klunky. So I didnt like the lights and didn't like the switch.

One idea was to use the factory foglight switch from a GT. This headlight switch unit is directly replaceable to the Mach 1, and the wiring is in place from the BCM to the headlight switch. But after lots of testing and trying, I figured the BCM is supplying 3 vdc to the foglight switch anytime power is on. The foglight switch is a momentary pushbutton supplying ground to the BCM 3 vdc. This signals the BCM to switch the fogs on or off, depending on the programmed lighting configuration of the BCM.

So the next idea was to use the GT foglight momentary switch to ground to control a relay. I tried several relays, but was unable to get any to work. Momentary switching means latching relays. Most latching relays require 2 switches... one on, one off. I was unable to discover a 12vdc latching relay that would simply flip-flop at the momentary application of a ground from a common switch. So I decided to simply add a switch.

I found a nice little illuminated 3/4" pushbutton on/off switch on Amazon for $10. Comes with a plug-in pigtail. After lots of searching, I decided to take the plunge and buy a pair of Diode Dynamics Elite Series Type A lights. These fit the style of the factory lighting on the Mach and have a mounting I can work with. They also have a cool amber running light feature that I didnt know if I would care for, but have since taken a liking to. @Diode Dynamics

Mounting the lights required removing the front bumper cover. I tried just removing the lower splash panel, and I can get to them that way, but removing the front end just made it way easier. I used the plastic plugs to mount the lights. These plugs are about 3/16" thick, and seem very capable of carrying the .85lb weight of each light assy. Drilled a 3.25" hole in each plug and slightly modified to make each lamp fit. Each lamp is mounted with 4 screws to the plug. I wired the amber running light to the outer parking light of the Mach. I could have wired em to the DRL's, but I liked the option of not having them on at all. The ambers pull 25mA, so no issue adding them to the park light circuit load.

After getting everything mounted and wired and front end installed, I discovered getting the lights aligned is going to be a problem. I still need to work on this. I got them as close as I could just working in my shop. The plugs are mounted at an angle and the lights have an alignment feature. But with the angle of the plugs, the alignment is pretty much maxed out. If further alignment is needed, some mods may have to be done, either shimming the mounting points or modifying the alignment feature.

I am using the switch to directly control the foglight white. The fogs pull 1.4A each, and the switch is rated for 10A. So no relay needed. Mounted the switch in the dead panel below the headlight switch. Wired it so the switch led is only on when the foglights are on.

My car does not have the heated steering wheel, so I removed the 20A fuse for that at the BCM and used a fuse tap with a 10A fuse to power the lights. Running the wiring is pretty basic. Details available.

Overall, I'm pretty happy. The appearance of the smallish lights in the grill is not 100%, but nothing ever will be with the shape of the cutouts. The more modern look really matches the headlights nicely, and the ambers lend a cool, different, almost mean look.

You may like it, you may not. Its ok if you wanna tell me I'm ridiculous or I did it wrong. Its the internet... Be A Hero! I dont care. Its a mod I havent seen anyone else do and I did it myself in a way I like. I no longer have to look at those Dead Eye Sockets.

Havent been out on the road yet, waiting on a new Magneride sensor. Still have to figure out how I'm gonna align the lights without taking the front off... maybe some small access holes and a 3' screwdriver?

OK. have a good day. Photo dump follows.

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Looks great! Well done.
I like the yellow fogs in the grille. Gives me a hint of an F150 Raptor vibe. I think it would be awesome if the lights stayed yellow and were connected to the turn signals so that they would flash too. The white LED lights look fine but I think the yellow go better with the blue paint.
 
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Looks great! Well done.
I like the yellow fogs in the grille. Gives me a hint of an F150 Raptor vibe. I think it would be awesome if the lights stayed yellow and were connected to the turn signals so that they would flash too. The white LED lights look fine but I think the yellow go better with the blue paint.
Thank you.
It would be easy to connect the new ambers to the turn signals, the wiring is right there. That might have been cool to have them flash, too.

I decided on the white lights simply because I've never been a fan of bright yellow lights. But you're right... they would have looked really good with the blue.
 

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Me like, a lot. I love the amber look, and appreciate all the work you did to create something unique. I envy your knowledge and abilities.
 
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Me like, a lot. I love the amber look, and appreciate all the work you did to create something unique. I envy your knowledge and abilities.
Thank you very much. Retired Aircraft Mechanic, 40 years working the line on big Boeing and Airbus aircraft. And always willing to share.
 

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I think you’ve improved the appearance and functionality… well done!
 

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Love it, OP. I’m always stunned there isn’t a grille with proper fog lights like the SN197’s had. AM has a Mach 1 style grille but I just don’t like those halo looking half lights.
 
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Love it, OP. I’m always stunned there isn’t a grille with proper fog lights like the SN197’s had. AM has a Mach 1 style grille but I just don’t like those halo looking half lights.

Hi Joseph.

Yeah, I looked at several versions of the half-halos, I reckon they are supposed to look like horseshoes? I'm not really into the non-functional lighting. And to me, it still left the dead eye sockets. I really needed to do something... one of those little things that bugs ya every day.

I'm also surprised there isn't more out there for this. A proper, good looking kit would sell profitably, I imagine.

Thanks for the kind reply.
 
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I finally got out at night and tried the new fog lights. Few findings:

The beam pattern of these Diode Dynamics Elite Series Type A lights is amazing! They are going to be outstanding when I get them aligned...

Ugh, the alignment. The factory plastic plugs that I'm using for mounting are mounted at an angle in the grill. I like this method because the plug creates a background around the light, so there's not just empty space around it. More of a finished look. The lights have a tilting alignment adjustment and I have it maxxed out.

I knew working on the alignment would be an issue.

Right now, you cant even see the fog light beam when sitting in the car. Way, way, way too low. So I need to either totally rethink the mounting (on the plug) or modify the alignment adjustment (removing material) to allow the light to swing more upward. Either way, the front end needs to come off again and I'll figure out what to do.
 

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Ah! You had a similar idea! Though I'm using SS5s for my project. I'll be printing circular shrouds for mine once this project concludes.

This is pretty sweet! 😃
I thought about using those elites but ultimately went with the SS3s for my fogs due to their crazy output strength. Their cutoff wasn't as crisp as the Elite's but the amber and how wide they are have really helped me maintain lanes during downpours and avoid suspicious puddles.
 
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Ah! You had a similar idea! Though I'm using SS5s for my project. I'll be printing circular shrouds for mine once this project concludes.

This is pretty sweet! 😃
I thought about using those elites but ultimately went with the SS3s for my fogs due to their crazy output strength. Their cutoff wasn't as crisp as the Elite's but the amber and how wide they are have really helped me maintain lanes during downpours and avoid suspicious puddles.
Those are great lights and will work well. I just didn't feel good with the appearance of them in the M1 grill. There's a company making a kit for these in the M1, and the appearance just doesn't make me happy. Nothing wrong with em, just not the look I want.

Still need to work on alignment on mine, getting rid of the adjustment restrictions. Working on my factory 5 right now.
 

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I like all the information and what you did with your car. I have done something similar with halos to it. DRL halos and they would turn amber when using a turn signal. I’m still trying to figure out wiring if I add fog lights with halos. I have something in mind but don’t know how it will work. Here is currently what I have in my car I just picked up some halos from Amazon and wired into the side marker lights with the blinker.
I would like to use these jeep halos below but I still would need to figure out exactly how to wire it all as I’m not too familiar any input would be great !
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