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OK, here is my response...I've no idea what you are going on about. More conspiracy stuff I presume.
No our financial system broke down at its most basic level. Trust between banks.

The way I combat conspiracy theories is to follow the money. Money never lies.
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You tell me...It is your conspiracy theory.
It's simple math..... VERY Simple math...
Never mind, I'll just join the rest of the group who is choosing to ignore your posts...
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It's simple math..... VERY Simple math...
Never mind, I'll just join the rest of the group who is choosing to ignore your posts...
LoL..
So simple you can't even explain it.

Got it.
 

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This thread has certainly devolved. I got my first Pfizer shot this morning. :fingerscrossed::muscle:
 

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This thread has certainly devolved. I got my first Pfizer shot this morning. :fingerscrossed::muscle:
at least we can be assured a continued stream of insightful and chin-scratching posts and memes for a few more weeks at least. That's why we come here in the first place.
 

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Although commonly used together, diseases and viruses are two different things. We may not have a cure for diseases like cancer but a number of serious viruses have been virtually eradicated due to vaccines. Keep in mind there are no cures for viruses. Covid-19 will always exist. But people vaccinated against it will nota be able to contract it.
Until it mutates, then The vaccine is worthless.

Most of us have been vaccinated in the past for various things that don’t mutate and where the vaccine is proven.
Its kinda accepted in today’s society, yes.

I go out on a limb here am reasonably Sure that if the COVID vaccine was 100% proven , and for a non mutating virus, most would have no problem getting vaccinated.

But a maybe result, for a mutating virus ?
So no , I won’t take it, as won’t many others.

Just Like no one tells you what crap to put in your body, no one will tell me.
Hope it works for you. Sincerely.
 

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Hello; I went to a Wal-mart this morning. I was outside where they put things like mulch in the parking lot. Had to go in the store to pay. I was talking to an older woman about the vaccine. She had had the first injection and was planning on the second. I told her about how sick the second shot made me for a day. We talked for a while. One thing for sure is she is scared to death.
I will guess a lot of other folks are just as scared and that this fear likely is driving their actions.
 

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Yes I can. I don't have to be that smart to figure out your simple mind.
for Someone who professes to love and care about humanity you’re a real head scratcher case haha
 

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I told her about how sick the second shot made me for a day.
the Pfizer study showed a 3-5x increase in severe adverse reaction (muscle/joint, chills, fever) compared to the first dose. I'll bet nobody giving the shots is pointing that out nor making it required reading during the intake/waiver process.

I will guess a lot of other folks are just as scared and that this fear likely is driving their actions.
Unfortunately yes. The media and establishment has seen to it that the drum of fear is pounded loud and hard. We can debate whether that was ethical, but we know that humans have a VERY BAD ability to properly assess risk.
 

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Apples and 10mm sockets. Yeah, that different.
And what do you know about 10 mm sockets?other then losing them in Abyss ,I mean engine bay .
We do not know that yet. My wife had it. Hates vaccines, but took this one. She is not willing to die to take the chance she is immune.
Did you get both shots?
 

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Until it mutates, then The vaccine is worthless.

Most of us have been vaccinated in the past for various things that don’t mutate and where the vaccine is proven.
Its kinda accepted in today’s society, yes.

I go out on a limb here am reasonably Sure that if the COVID vaccine was 100% proven , and for a non mutating virus, most would have no problem getting vaccinated.

But a maybe result, for a mutating virus ?
So no , I won’t take it, as won’t many others.

Just Like no one tells you what crap to put in your body, no one will tell me.
Hope it works for you. Sincerely.
Hello; there is a wager going on around us all these days. First let me say I do think the covid19 virus is a risk if you are infected. How much of a risk is one of the parameters of the wager. For someone older like myself the risk is elevated in two ways. One is an increased risk of death. Around 5% of my age group (I am 73) do die. Some unknown, by me, number have long lasting after effects from the virus infection. A third risk can be the great cost of being in a hospital if you do get sick enough to be in one.

I managed to avoid the virus for the months it has taken a vaccine to be produced. I am not sure I did not have the virus, but an antibody test was negative. It seems some of the antibody tests do not have a good track record. This has puzzled me for some time. It would seem a simple thing to test for. Give it to a number who have had the virus and recovered. They will have the antibodies. The test might not show the strength of the antibodies but ought to show if they are present. Then use the antibody test with the better results. Anyway my test was negative.

I had to make a wager. Do I bet on the very good odds I would survive the infection and not have lingering long term effects or do I bet on a new vaccine with much reduced testing. A vaccine for which the companies making it have been given immunity for liability if it turns out to have bad long term effects. I placed the bet on the vaccine. At 73 it seems a reasonable one to make.

I now await the outcome of my wager. So far the bad outcome has only been 24 hours of being sick with flu like symptoms. Yes the nurse did mention that possible effect when she gave me the second shot. I was prepared but also was surprised at how bad I did feel. So my wager is made and time will tell if I made a sound wager.

I am pretty sure I would have made a different wager if I were under 50 years of age. I am pretty sure I would have passed up the second dose of the moderna all together if things had gone a bit different. I lost the first vaccine card after the first shot and had decided to let it go if such was to be an issue. However the folks at the injection tent made me a new card. I still do question the wisdom of the second injection. Not just for the suffering a second injection can bring, but also because I was not convinced it was absolutely needed in a time of emergency.
I do hope I did not take a shot from someone else who will get very sick because they could not get a first shot.

This will be tough bet for someone young. The vaccine is an unknown which only time will answer questions about. At this point I do hope the vaccine is safe. Fingers crossed.
 

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This thread has certainly devolved. I got my first Pfizer shot this morning. :fingerscrossed::muscle:
I got mine last week too (Pfizer). Nothing but a little soreness in my arm where the shot happened for a day or so. Nothing more than that. April 9th for the next one. All I needed was my Uncle to explain it to me without all the BS who is a retired ER doctor of 45 years. Choice was simple.

Also appears a LOT of places are opening up more to the general public at the county level.
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