Covid Shots

[CJJon]

Yep.

What you can't understand sarcasm? When I was in grade school we were taught there would be an Ice age by 1980. When that didn't happen they said kids wouold never see snow by 2000 Ect ect ect........

I don't blindly believe so called scientists.


No, another person keeps citing the wisdom of scientists. The ice age, global warming, ozone hole, and man made climate change predictions have not come true but still are reported as fact.

Why should we blindly follow the "science" when it comes to anything else?

So, you will blindly not follow any science then. Gotcha.

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[K4fxd]

So, you will blindly not follow any science then. Gotcha.

Key word, "blindly"

 

[sk47]

For the 10th time then, NO.

Follow the recommended dosage regimen and stop trying to play armchair scientist.

Hello; I include links with relevant information. I do not think you are as on top of things as you claim to be.

COVID-19 survivors have immunity against virus, can fight reinfection - Deseret News



Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19 | National Institutes of Health (NIH)



How Long Does Immunity Last After COVID-19? What We Know (healthline.com)


I await you attempt to spin this with interest.

 

[CJJon]

Hello; I include links with relevant information. I do not think you are as on top of things as you claim to be.

COVID-19 survivors have immunity against virus, can fight reinfection - Deseret News



Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19 | National Institutes of Health (NIH)



How Long Does Immunity Last After COVID-19? What We Know (healthline.com)


I await you attempt to spin this with interest.

People who recover from COVID-19 have been found to have all four of these components. However, specifics about what this means for the immune response and how long immunity lasts are not clear.

According to Lauren Rodda, PhD, a senior postdoctoral fellow in immunology at the University of Washington School of Medicine, we don’t know for certain if people are immune to reinfection simply because not enough studies have been done yet.

 

[CJJon]

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947a2.htm

Summary
What is already known about this topic?

Most persons develop virus-specific antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 after infection; however, the timeline of antibody decline over time is uncertain.

What is added by this report?

Among 156 frontline health care personnel who had positive SARS-CoV-2 antibody test results in spring 2020, 94% experienced a decline at repeat testing approximately 60 days later, and 28% seroreverted to below the threshold of positivity. Participants with higher initial antibody responses were more likely to have antibodies detected at the follow-up test than were those who had a lower initial antibody response.

What are the implications for public health practice?

SARS-CoV-2 antibodies decline over weeks following acute infection. Negative SARS-CoV-2 serologic results do not exclude previous infection, which has significant impacts on how serologic studies are interpreted

 

[K4fxd]

This is not scientific.

The blood bank is paying $100 for blood with covid anti bodies. $20 for any other blood vaccinated or not.

So my simple flat earther mind says the natural antibodies are more better.

 

[sk47]

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6947a2.htm

Hello; I did a quick read of your link. Came away with this. Those recovered from an infection had antibodies for 60 days.
From my second link in the first section says antibodies up to eight months. The link with NIH.


( this next is not for CJJon) ( I write more for others, his comments provide a sounding board.)
I will take a small risk here and pull from memory something that I cannot have total confidence in. Best I recall from past studies is after a while antibodies become diminished in the bloodstream if the particular pathogen is no longer detected. This does not mean all immune response for that pathogen is lost. There is a mechanism in place for a long time which can be "switched" back on to generate more antibodies, T-cells and such. May be an out of date memory.
The diminishing of antibodies ought not to be a factor currently. We are being told to keep wearing masks and not open schools and such because the covid19 is all around. So it would seem a fair chance these survivors would run into some virus from time to time which would keep the immune response active.

 

[sk47]

This is not scientific.

The blood bank is paying $100 for blood with covid anti bodies. $20 for any other blood vaccinated or not.

So my simple flat earther mind says the natural antibodies are more better.

Hello; Of course the blood bank folks could be "flat earthers". ( Sorry for that poor attempt at humor. )
A more serious response; there is a national campaign to get vaccines into our arms here in the USA. Your points and my questions which are being railed against have no place in the minds of those who are pushing the vaccine.
The vaccine is a tool to use in this pandemic. I decided to take a chance and did take the vaccine. I am old and at more risk. I may have side effects from the vaccine and regret that decision. I may be protected and avoid becoming ill enough to need a hospital bed and thus save a bed for someone ill.
I am not an anti-vaccine sort, but I am for using a tool wisely. If the goal is to protect as many people as soon as possible then my ideas ought to help with that. If my ideas are faulty there ought to be clear enough reasons. The "shut up, go away and do not question your betters" attitude does not work with me. I have enough background and education to follow much of this stuff. Not an expert for sure, but not a rube either.

Side note - I like that the mods on this site are not shutting us down. I have to fight the temptation to be as nasty as some on here. I know that responding in kind will not help.

 

[CJJon]

Some people just can’t be reached.

 

[K4fxd]

I decided to take a chance and did take the vaccine

I got the covid before the vaccine was avalible, since I've had the disease I believe taking the vaccine is redundant. So I will not. Had I not gotten the virus I might have gotten the vaccine. Glad I don't have to make that choice.

I am not an anti-vaccine sort

Neither am I. I have had all the vaccines and my kids have been vaccinated. I don't believe in giving kids the covid vaccine on advise from my MD sister, my Dr and my grandkids Dr.

The "shut up, go away and do not question your betters" attitude does not work with me.

Nor me

 

[K4fxd]

Some people just can’t be reached.

You are one of them.

 

[CJJon]

You are one of them.

im not the one making weird claims based on feelings.

 

[K4fxd]

im not the one making weird claims based on feelings.

What claim have I made that I said was based on feelings?

The only decision I have ever made in my life that was based on feelings was when I asked my wife to marry me.

 

[sk47]

Hello; Again CJJon you mislead if that was aimed at me. I have not been making claims based on feelings. This is another one of your twisted spins. When I revised my points earlier this morning I was careful to avoid language which might be thought to be "feelings" .

 

[peoples1234]

I got the covid before the vaccine was avalible, since I've had the disease I believe taking the vaccine is redundant. So I will not. Had I not gotten the virus I might have gotten the vaccine. Glad I don't have to make that choice.

Neither am I. I have had all the vaccines and my kids have been vaccinated. I don't believe in giving kids the covid vaccine on advise from my MD sister, my Dr and my grandkids Dr.

Nor me

What claim have I made that I said was based on feelings?

The only decision I have ever made in my life that was based on feelings was when I asked my wife to marry me.

See bolded sections. Believe = feelings because they are contrary to current scientific consensus. Hence why you keep getting called a flat earther, they also believe the earth is flat. Although I am not 100% on kids, I don’t think they are giving anyone under 18 the vaccine in any appreciable quantity. They are not here in NC.

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