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Stops you from burning up your clutch. Not really theory. It's mechanics. Your clutch isnt fully disengaged you don't think it will eventually burn it all the way up or when you get on it hard. I'd like to see you pull pedal up between each shift when racing. Lol
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But didn't they say you don't need any tools?
Yea I don't think you do. I think the gentlemen that broke his bracket didn't compress the clutch pedal.
 

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The spring is one piece and replaces the 2 piece stock unit including the plastic divider. You don't need tools. Lay a towel under the clutch since the spring ends are lubricated with grease, in case the spring falls out when you replace it (mine popped out and would have got my carpet dirty with grease if I didn't have a towel layed out). Move your seat all the way back. I used an LED flashlight to light up under the dash. Press the clutch down with your left hand, then grab the spring with your right and wiggle it free from the perch. Take a look at it when you get a chance, you'll see what I'm talking about.
These are all the instructions you need. If you can squeeze an empty beer can with one hand you'll have the strength to install. Took me longer to find a towel than it did to replace the spring.
 

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Stops you from burning up your clutch. Not really theory. It's mechanics. Your clutch isnt fully disengaged you don't think it will eventually burn it all the way up or when you get on it hard. I'd like to see you pull pedal up between each shift when racing. Lol

The clutch is fully disengaged. If that wasn't the case I wouldn't be able to floor it in first, second and third like I do most every day without it slipping. I don't toe it up until I hit my cruising gear, and we're talking about, literally, maybe an eighth inch of travel at the top. The tiny bit of play in the pedal travel isn't enough to push the pressure plate in. The ONLY thing that makes me even toe it up is the tiny shred of doubt. It's not some big inconvenience to do it, so I just do it for peace of mind. To get a new bracket requires buying the pedal assembly, which I believe is close to 300 bucks.
 

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Yea I don't think you do. I think the gentlemen that broke his bracket didn't compress the clutch pedal.
I had the clutch down. I never tried it without the grips because all the stuff I read or watched on it was using the tool. What happened was, when the grips slipped off I had already wiggled the mounting partially free. It didn't take much pressure from the spring opening up to break off the side of the partial sleeve at the top.
 

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Stops you from burning up your clutch. Not really theory. It's mechanics. Your clutch isnt fully disengaged you don't think it will eventually burn it all the way up or when you get on it hard. I'd like to see you pull pedal up between each shift when racing. Lol
The only play in the clutch is the top 1/8". I'd put money if someone didn't know it was gone would never even know expect it feels like a firm clutch. You won't burn the clutch up, my PP/GT has been gone for 6,000 miles or more. The spring is nothing more than it rest on a cam to make it engage softer and easier for , I'm guessing here but women and or older people. The spring has no affect on how fast or how much it releases or engages. Just makes it feel softer.
 

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And think about it like this...if the pedal was putting any significant pressure on anything, then why is there any slop at all?
 

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For $15 I'd rather be safe than sorry. Replaced mine the other day. Just as everyone said, no tools required. Took me all of 2 minutes. Now I'm shifting smooth as it should be.
 

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And think about it like this...if the pedal was putting any significant pressure on anything, then why is there any slop at all?
If you ask me there is none. But as soon as I say that someone will get up there with a micro meter, laser measuring tool and say there is a fraction of a quarter of an inch slop.
To me there is none at all. Removing the spring just gets rid of that, cam, kinda like a compound bow has. That's it no other purpose.
Again I'll go to 6,000 miles on a 700hp engine, no spring!
 

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For $15 I'd rather be safe than sorry. Replaced mine the other day. Just as everyone said, no tools required. Took me all of 2 minutes. Now I'm shifting smooth as it should be.
That was my mindset (for $10 a few weeks ago), but apparently I can't even handle a simple spring swap without newton's law hitting me in the face. But, the more thought I've given it, the less concerned I am. Everyone I've even mentioned this to just laughs and shakes their head that anyone thinks it's even a possible issue.
 

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Best advice I've seen so far though , use a towel on the floor for the white grease in case you drop it.
 

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Don't get me wrong, if "you"feel better with a spring put one in, it's your car. But it's not necessary. Plus with it gone gives you the feel of what most of us " you" are looking for from the clutch. Not arguing about what feels better, everyone has different tast, just letting you know it's not needed.
 

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Don't get me wrong, if "you"feel better with a spring put one in, it's your car. But it's not necessary. Plus with it gone gives you the feel of what most of us " you" are looking for from the clutch. Not arguing about what feels better, everyone has different tast, just letting you know it's not needed.
driving it with the spring out is a whole different experience. people who still have the stock spring don't realize, it changes more than the feel. Everything is easier. Smoother transitions, downshifts, rev matching.. anything where the clutch is used is a better experience. it's probably not much different with the 35 spring, but i was grinning from ear to ear on my first drive after I pulled the spring.
 

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I like a tighter clutch but I think this is not going to do that?
it feels a little heavier to me, but the best part is that it's the same from bottom to top. when it's stock, it feels like the letoff on a compound bow, and when you get back to the top it's very touchy. i drive over cobblestone a lot and the little dips in it would jack me up as i tried to takeoff in first. with the spring out (and probably with the 35lb spring), the amount of foot pressure required is the same all the time. i would be surprised if most anyone doesn't prefer it.
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