Cervini S550

[SVTFreak]

Complaining about someone else putting side scoops on their car or the availability of it is useless though. Akin to wanting coke banned because you don't drink it. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Pretty simple philosophy actually.

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[uglygun]

The modernization and functionality of the car is what made me deviate from imports to something American. The American car industry has been losing to imports for quite awhile now and I always secretly rooted for a comeback for them. I liked a lot of things about muscle cars but the efficiency, reliability, and less than functional styling was a huge turn off for me. I am very happy with this car as is but modifications are always fun. As said, they should improve the car not hinder it. It's 2015 and the Mustang finally received the suspension it should have had for decades. It's time the after market adapted for the sophisticated car the Mustang has become.

Know what kind of hood I would like to see?

Something akin to a terminator heat extractor hood.

The 2015 has a ridge line on the hood akin to that of my SN95's original hood. Where it works on the SN95 I dont think it works on a SN550.

I would love to see the ridges eliminated entirely but leaving the style line that comes from the edge of the grill to the corner of the a pillar. Invert the area between the nostrils so it is lower(not a cowl type effect) towards the front of the car/vent and flush to the hood nearest the windshield wipers.

Hell I would even tolerate seeing some ugly yet totally functional Tiger racing style massive open element screened holes.


I love my 95 Cobra R hood on my 95. On my Cobra it just fits the car. But the SN95 style stuff on the 2015 chaps my ass.

My phone has it's lock screen as a head on shot of the 2015 PP when it was parked in my drive way. Every time I look at my phone I see the thing that annoys me most and helps make it easy for me to wait. I swipe and am rewarded by my background image which is my 95/05 parked next to each other in the garage.

It wasnt until I had the chance to see the two cars in back to back images before I could see the similarity in "snout ridges".

Get heritage and am a sentimental fool.

But the SN550 doesnt work with the typical hockey stick located on the rear quarter.

If anything turning it around and putting it behind the front wheel like with the GT350 was genious, even if that isnt the intent or the purpose, in some way that is what was done.

Cervinis is in my opinion looking for inspiration from the wrong generations of stangs.


This hood... so simple and so beautiful. I get that some unique things had to happen to make it a reality and afford the driver better visibility. But is it so hard to borrow some inspiration for a really sleek understated regular gt hood?

 

[Sl13cobra]

KR-esque hood is tired

 

[9secondko]

Complaining about someone else putting side scoops on their car or the availability of it is useless though. Akin to wanting coke banned because you don't drink it. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Pretty simple philosophy actually.

Yeah... Except when it's NOT complaining Bout what SOMEONE ELSE buys and does.

It was directed toward the designers who can't seem to move forward with something fresh.

and design is something I'm passionate about. So I'll continue to DISCUSS it on a discussion forum.

Everyone has different taste. For example, I don't care for country music. But I can tell when the music is good, regardless of genre.

What's been coming out for the s550 is just plain uninspired cash grabs.

Nothing fresh or new outside of Saleen black label so far. And even it is leaving a lot on the table by not giving a special headlight and taillight treatment.

Just more scoops, louvres, inexplicably round fogs shoved into the grill, etc.

It's old, tired, and needs to change. Scoops don't define mistang. And the original didn't even have them.

Fogs in the grill is fine... For the 60's or retro throwbacks like the Boss.

But this car isn't that and it deserves better.

No problem with a few companies doing old looking stuff.

But when that's all there is, my gosh that's s problem.

 

[9secondko]

Know what kind of hood I would like to see?

Something akin to a terminator heat extractor hood.

The 2015 has a ridge line on the hood akin to that of my SN95's original hood. Where it works on the SN95 I dont think it works on a SN550.

I would love to see the ridges eliminated entirely but leaving the style line that comes from the edge of the grill to the corner of the a pillar. Invert the area between the nostrils so it is lower(not a cowl type effect) towards the front of the car/vent and flush to the hood nearest the windshield wipers.

Hell I would even tolerate seeing some ugly yet totally functional Tiger racing style massive open element screened holes.


I love my 95 Cobra R hood on my 95. On my Cobra it just fits the car. But the SN95 style stuff on the 2015 chaps my ass.

My phone has it's lock screen as a head on shot of the 2015 PP when it was parked in my drive way. Every time I look at my phone I see the thing that annoys me most and helps make it easy for me to wait. I swipe and am rewarded by my background image which is my 95/05 parked next to each other in the garage.

It wasnt until I had the chance to see the two cars in back to back images before I could see the similarity in "snout ridges".

Get heritage and am a sentimental fool.

But the SN550 doesnt work with the typical hockey stick located on the rear quarter.

If anything turning it around and putting it behind the front wheel like with the GT350 was genious, even if that isnt the intent or the purpose, in some way that is what was done.

Cervinis is in my opinion looking for inspiration from the wrong generations of stangs.


This hood... so simple and so beautiful. I get that some unique things had to happen to make it a reality and afford the driver better visibility. But is it so hard to borrow some inspiration for a really sleek understated regular gt hood?

Great post.

 

[uglygun]

What can I say.

I am sitting around watching Top Gear reruns.

They just talked bout the 2015 coming to Europe. Hammond saying he doesnt want a right hand drive Stang because it is like it is trying to be something it is not...

It is like Americans using the word "bloody" in regular conversation...

They are not entirely wrong.

And then I think of my run, no my flogging, that poor 2015 GT perf pack on the test drive(hell ya I am going into track mode). Even though I knew the car was fast, it was like it was trying to be too much and for the past 3 months I have been questioning whether a 2015 Stang is too sophisticated for me. My inner Joe Dirt just doesnt know what to do with things like heated/cooled seats and a car that isnt trying to shake itself to death and scare the hell out of you if you do 120+.

Putting a bunch of retro stuff on the 2015 doesnt appeal to my inner Joe Dirt because I know it is still too sophisticated. Those side pipes do a bit but maybe with long tubes and an offroad pipe or maybe if plumbed Boss 302 style. Cannot fool me! Dont try to church it up your name is Joe Dirt....

I am looking for the car that asks me "would it help if you went back to thinkin I am your sister"?

The GT350 might just be my Jamie Lee Pressly. The right combination of flying too close to the sun Icarus hotness combined with a sense of danger and rejecting sophistication.

 

[Katastrophe]

I agree with the majority here...Cervinis did drop the ball on this design. Most of the designs I've seen lately from all the big companies are a let down. They look like they just carried the parts over from the previous generation. Just...boring...

Out of all of them, the Roush and RTR look the best to me. Maybe because they aren't really too outlandish? I don't know.

I do agree designers of the aftermarket should look towards more of a sports car theme...not muscle. The Mustang clearly shed that this generation.

If there is one design I really like...I know most hate it...

Wait for it...

...but I just can't stop looking at the Fisker Rocket. Specifically, the black one with the black multi-spoke wheels. I just think it screams "cool". I'm the minority, I know...but I would take it in a heartbeat.

 

[SVTFreak]

It didn't completely shed the muscle look. I think the best way to describe it is a softening of muscle to a more world accepted view. The long hood, short deck, haunched coke bottle shape is still there. Strongly. But it's also shared. While it's definitely an evolution, there is no doubt what you're seeing is a mustang. Both old school looks and news school looks will work but I think the problem here is that people are blending them in bad ways.

The roush is nice. The rtr is meh. The fiskar is cool (except that horrid front end).

 

[Herr_Poopschitz]

Yeah... Except when it's NOT complaining Bout what SOMEONE ELSE buys and does.

It was directed toward the designers who can't seem to move forward with something fresh.

and design is something I'm passionate about. So I'll continue to DISCUSS it on a discussion forum.

Everyone has different taste. For example, I don't care for country music. But I can tell when the music is good, regardless of genre.

What's been coming out for the s550 is just plain uninspired cash grabs.

Nothing fresh or new outside of Saleen black label so far. And even it is leaving a lot on the table by not giving a special headlight and taillight treatment.

Just more scoops, louvres, inexplicably round fogs shoved into the grill, etc.

It's old, tired, and needs to change. Scoops don't define mistang. And the original didn't even have them.

Fogs in the grill is fine... For the 60's or retro throwbacks like the Boss.

But this car isn't that and it deserves better.

No problem with a few companies doing old looking stuff.

But when that's all there is, my gosh that's s problem.

Capitalism rules. If you can do better, go on w/ yo bad self, Mr Designer, you'll clearly make a fortune since you have it all figured out. Or, maybe just build your own stuff since the aftermarket isn't providing what you want...my guess is you don't have a clue how to do that. You want someone to design something 'you' like...well lah-tee-dah...what makes you think the world revolves around you? Hopefully the multiple posts of whining at least make you feel better. There's ways to critique design, and then there's, well...

As for 'fake' side scoops. My $ says those complaining don't have the balls to take a cutoff wheel to their quarter to make it functional, and probably wouldn't have a clue as how to go about doing it anyway. Nothing wrong w/ emulating the look if ya ain't got the skills.

Some of you guys are funny w/ the irrational function over form bs. You don't happen to be the guys that get 20 x 11" wheels, even though an 18 x 9" would make your car faster, would you? Maybe you didnt happen to get a spoiler delete car...uh oh, posers and their nonfunctional extra weight, better bitch/make fun of them. Here's a hint...even racecars are built to be 'pretty'...just ask the advertisers.

As for the Cervini's stuff, I think it all sucks. Next please...

 

[9secondko]

Capitalism rules. If you can do better, go on w/ yo bad self, Mr Designer, you'll clearly make a fortune since you have it all figured out. Or, maybe just build your own stuff since the aftermarket isn't providing what you want...my guess is you don't have a clue how to do that. You want someone to design something 'you' like...well lah-tee-dah...what makes you think the world revolves around you? Hopefully the multiple posts of whining at least make you feel better. There's ways to critique design, and then there's, well...

As for 'fake' side scoops. My $ says those complaining don't have the balls to take a cutoff wheel to their quarter to make it functional, and probably wouldn't have a clue as how to go about doing it anyway. Nothing wrong w/ emulating the look if ya ain't got the skills.

Some of you guys are funny w/ the irrational function over form bs. You don't happen to be the guys that get 20 x 11" wheels, even though an 18 x 9" would make your car faster, would you? Maybe you didnt happen to get a spoiler delete car...uh oh, posers and their nonfunctional extra weight, better bitch/make fun of them. Here's a hint...even racecars are built to be 'pretty'...just ask the advertisers.

As for the Cervini's stuff, I think it all sucks. Next please...

Great. Now the Chevy troll gives his take. Lol

If I could make the stuff myself, I WOULD.

BUT I DONT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, nor the experience.

You may be ok with uninspired junk. I'm not.

And cutting out metal to let the scoops direct air to... The tire?? Idiocy.

This isn't about making them functional. It's about. Not having them. They don't belong.

And this is a forum where we discuss things

jive talk like "leave the car then" (when this isn't about the car at all, but the after markets uninspired alterations), or pictures of crying children are just cop outs because you know it's right but just don't care.

And the not caring is why you will have a less than best experience.

By all means, enjoy your old looking stuff.

But for the rest of us, we want better.

When Ford updates the car in a refresh, you'll likely "get it." But then again, you probably won't.

 

[Herr_Poopschitz]

Chevy troll? Are you off your meds again? The one and only GM product I owned, that tower of power S10, was 20 years ago. Watch it w/ the name calling, by the way.

So you're whining because you are unable to learn how to make parts for yourself? Unwilling to learn? Learning disability?

I'm looking at a doing a center exit exhaust. Cut out wheel well, weld in fresh metal, relocate a few things, fiberglass, bonding adhesive, build rear exhaust.

Infrastructure? Experience? Pffft. Jump in and do it. How you think you get experience? Whining on the internet isn't it. The essence of hot rodding died w/ mass produced bolt on parts. It seems people feel entitled to parts and designs exactly how they want them...with no effort but paying the credit card bill at the end of the month.:tsk:

Seems if you're so passionate, as you say you are, you'd use the time you've been whining to study up on what's required to build those things you want.... Be a problem solver and stop relying on others.

Oh, and side scoops would be used to direct air to the rear brakes (tire? Really?)...seems you need a basic understanding of racecar engineering so you can at least recognize the difference between a functional vs nonfunctional scoop first...

Go pound on some metal and try shaping it. It's quite theraputic.

 

[9secondko]

Chevy troll? Are you off your meds again? The one and only GM product I owned, that tower of power S10, was 20 years ago. Watch it w/ the name calling, by the way.

So you're whining because you are unable to learn how to make parts for yourself? Unwilling to learn? Learning disability?

I'm looking at a doing a center exit exhaust. Cut out wheel well, weld in fresh metal, relocate a few things, fiberglass, bonding adhesive, build rear exhaust.

Infrastructure? Experience? Pffft. Jump in and do it. How you think you get experience? Whining on the internet isn't it. The essence of hot rodding died w/ mass produced bolt on parts. It seems people feel entitled to parts and designs exactly how they want them...with no effort but paying the credit card bill at the end of the month.:tsk:

Seems if you're so passionate, as you say you are, you'd use the time you've been whining to study up on what's required to build those things you want.... Be a problem solver and stop relying on others.

Oh, and side scoops would be used to direct air to the rear brakes (tire? Really?)...seems you need a basic understanding of racecar engineering so you can at least recognize the difference between a functional vs nonfunctional scoop first...

Go pound on some metal and try shaping it. It's quite theraputic.

LOL.

I've read your posts. Almost did drive me to medical dependency... no that's actually not true. Just wanted to match your tone. But not quite my natural style. I did confuse you with a certain troll here. I will admit that.

And didn't call you names btw. But carry on.

And like I said earlier, this isn't about making parts for myself.

But you can jimmy-rig to your hearts content at home.

I'm talking well made, bolt on parts that look and work like factory made stuff.

I could desing my own parts if I wanted. I can bend and weld the metal at home (most I have ever done with my own custom exhaust for my first Mustang (Mustang II btw, but didn't want to admit that... LOL had a WEAK 302 with single exhaust so I went ahead and made a dual side exit exhaust from the manifolds back and an H pipe. It wasn't pretty, but it was even and it sounded awesome), can spend too much money having CAD designs fabbed as well from a variety of materials. but that's not what I am talking about.

You know it as well, but just decided to grump it up because that is apparantly your style.

You also seem to have me confused with someone who doesn't like to get their hands dirty. But most "designers" are like that, so I will give you a pass.

This is, as I noted earlier, 1) a discussion concerning why there are so many desing failures coming out right now, and 2) an open letter to the companies with engineers putting this stuff together. too often an engineer who can "make it work" is doing it without gifted art direction.

there is a difference between someone like yourself hacking your car parts together (good luck with that) and a team putting together quality pieces that everyone can benefit from.

Also, you clearly don't understand that your method of "making the scoops functional" actually DOEs direct air to... wait for it... the TIRE!

Even in 94, th actual functional scoops didn't help brake cooling. Actually, "functional" isn't the right word. We will just call it "open." Because it didn't cool the brakes at all.

And if you wanted active air funneling to the brakes, you would need to create and duct that goes beheing the scoop and then back around the front and inside tire face with and outlet direct and the brake assembly in an S shape. but there are issues with that route as well. But surely... you knew that as you must have figured out tinkering with your parts...

So rather than put bad information snd bad attitudes out on this forum, maybe you would be better off going and getting some meds yourself. And then tinker a little happier.

Meanwhile, I would hope that (somewhat) trusted brands who have been at this a loong time, would catch some fresh vision and move design forward instead of making cash grabs with uninspired junk that people feel comfortable comparing their own backyard hobby projects with.

The point of it being really great is that someone like you COULDN'T build it with a reasonable budget.

There are material and fab amortization costs involved when something truly professional is produced that doesn't involve a hacksaw. LOL. that is what I meant by infrastructure.

If you want to discuss the Cervini design details and others, by all means, please do.

If you want to share what you make yourself in your backyard, I am sure there are places for that as well.

Unless you have some body kit that you made that's pretty good. In that case, pictures are welcome.

 

[ScottsGT]

opcorn: Keep 'em coming boys! This is good! :lol:

 

[Khyber]

why is every sentence on a new line? lol gigantic posts....

 

[Genxer]

I actually like the side louvers, but I would like to see them in person. It seems to add a little exotic flair. The hood reminds me of the KR500, not bad. It would have to be functional.

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