Cervini S550

[Ericc B]

I thought the car looked really sharp in person.

That's probably because of the wheels and despite all the plastic crap they added to it.

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[Katastrophe]

It didn't completely shed the muscle look. I think the best way to describe it is a softening of muscle to a more world accepted view. The long hood, short deck, haunched coke bottle shape is still there. Strongly. But it's also shared. While it's definitely an evolution, there is no doubt what you're seeing is a mustang. Both old school looks and news school looks will work but I think the problem here is that people are blending them in bad ways.

The roush is nice. The rtr is meh. The fiskar is cool (except that horrid front end).

I should have picked my words better. What I meant was it kind of lost that "muscle car" image, IMHO. The proportions and design elements are very muscular...like you said, the long hood, short deck...the MUCH better bottle shape (than the last S197). I think it's just more of a refined look...I wouldn't say European...but, you know.

So that's the issue right now for most body modifications. They don't blend...they just kind of stick out.

 

[Herr_Poopschitz]

And didn't call you names btw. But carry on.

"Chevy troll"

But you can jimmy-rig to your hearts content at home.

I'm talking well made, bolt on parts that look and work like factory made stuff.

You know it as well, but just decided to grump it up because that is apparantly your style.

Nope, I prefer not to hear grown men whining, when they can make do for themselves. Who cares about what the market offers, build your car the way YOU want to.

I always make fun of Harley owners who 'customize' their bikes w/ mass produced Chinese parts too...yep, really custom.

You also seem to have me confused with someone who doesn't like to get their hands dirty. But most "designers" are like that, so I will give you a pass.

Well, the most you've done is fab up a crappy exhaust system by your own admission, sooo yeah...seems a reasonable conclusion.

2) an open letter to the companies with engineers putting this stuff together. too often an engineer who can "make it work" is doing it without gifted art direction.

Open letter? If you're so displeased, why don't you contact said companies rather than hope they come to this website, hope they open this thread, and hope they read your posts, and hope they give your opinions a second thought. Seems like quite an indirect way to get things done, imo. Oh, and since when is an engineer req'd to build this kind of stuff? It ain't rocket science.

there is a difference between someone like yourself hacking your car parts together (good luck with that) and a team putting together quality pieces that everyone can benefit from.

'Hacking"? You don't know what I've built, nor the quality of work I do. Just because YOU don't know how to shape metal, lay fiberglass or cf, install roll bars, widen wheel wells, patch quarters, shave drip rails, etc, etc...or build every mechanical system associated w/ a car doesn't mean that no one else does.

Meanwhile, I would hope that (somewhat) trusted brands who have been at this a loong time, would catch some fresh vision and move design forward instead of making cash grabs with uninspired junk that people feel comfortable comparing their own backyard hobby projects with.

The point of it being really great is that someone like you COULDN'T build it with a reasonable budget.

There are material and fab amortization costs involved when something truly professional is produced that doesn't involve a hacksaw. LOL. that is what I meant by infrastructure.

Sorry you spend your money on things other than what you've said you're so passionate about. Some of us do. You clearly have no idea how to produce your own parts. It would be nice if you'd spend the effort to research it a bit rather than talk down to those that do. You might be surprised at how easy it is. Time consuming, but easy.

If you want to share what you make yourself in your backyard, I am sure there are places for that as well.

Unless you have some body kit that you made that's pretty good. In that case, pictures are welcome.

I could show plenty of pics of a lot of my work...but I'm afraid you're the kind of person that wouldn't appreciate or even recognize it, since you've never done anything other than a cobbled 1/2 of an exhaust system and whine about how no one is making stuff you want. Checkbook hot rodding just fits some people, unfortunately.

 

[9secondko]

"Chevy troll"



Nope, I prefer not to hear grown men whining, when they can make do for themselves. Who cares about what the market offers, build your car the way YOU want to.

I always make fun of Harley owners who 'customize' their bikes w/ mass produced Chinese parts too...yep, really custom.



Well, the most you've done is fab up a crappy exhaust system by your own admission, sooo yeah...seems a reasonable conclusion.



Open letter? If you're so displeased, why don't you contact said companies rather than hope they come to this website, hope they open this thread, and hope they read your posts, and hope they give your opinions a second thought. Seems like quite an indirect way to get things done, imo. Oh, and since when is an engineer req'd to build this kind of stuff? It ain't rocket science.



'Hacking"? You don't know what I've built, nor the quality of work I do. Just because YOU don't know how to shape metal, lay fiberglass or cf, install roll bars, widen wheel wells, patch quarters, shave drip rails, etc, etc...or build every mechanical system associated w/ a car doesn't mean that no one else does.



Sorry you spend your money on things other than what you've said you're so passionate about. Some of us do. You clearly have no idea how to produce your own parts. It would be nice if you'd spend the effort to research it a bit rather than talk down to those that do. You might be surprised at how easy it is. Time consuming, but easy.



I could show plenty of pics of a lot of my work...but I'm afraid you're the kind of person that wouldn't appreciate or even recognize it, since you've never done anything other than a cobbled 1/2 of an exhaust system and whine about how no one is making stuff you want. Checkbook hot rodding just fits some people, unfortunately.

Mr. grumps,

Way to kill a thread buddy. Just insert misinformed, wananbe know-it-all, your opinion is all that matters, etc. into a thread and keep harping on subjects you were already owned on.

So you are putting it out there for all to see that you entered into a thread discussing the "cheap, mass produced parts" by Cervini and start an argument with a member who posts his opinions on said parts that you would never buy, use, or care for and whose parts you said "suck," yet you disparage someone else who thinks similarly about this particular kit, simply because they don't tinker with backyard projects like yourself...

Clearly, you are just hurting for attention to call so much detail to your own personal skills, however good or horrible they may be. I suggest possibly going to Reminisce mgazine or somewhere like that where people who have the idle time you do to share memories and talk about their hobbies. Most possibly they will be folks in your age group as well. I am assuming you are an elderly person due to your grumpy, bitter nature, your "I have to be right even when its so obvious I'm wrong" attitude, your playing the victim while actually being the perpetrator stance. Your act is old already as likely as are you. I was taught to respect my elders, but you make it very difficult.

You say calling someone a troll is calling a "name" like a butthurt crybaby, and continue on with your "whiner" and crybaby names complete with (somewhat disturbing...I sincerely hope you don't have similar pictures on your hard drive at home) example images. I can only imagine that if I were posting troll pictures that you would simultaneously pop a hemorhoid so big you couldn't sit still long enough to type your trollish posts while also crying so much, you'd need to buy stock in Gatorade to justify your rehaydration needs.

And being a discussion forum, I would hope to discuss my opinions on the parts in question as well as topics that are generated in line with that discussion.

And in case you have never worked a corporate job in your life, you should know that, while emails and phone calls are acceptable, if ineffective, ways of voicing opinion, it is the public forum where things go viral or pick up steam as others with similar mindset also join into create a public sentiment. Most corporations pay heavy attention to social media, discussion forums, etc these days to get feedback on teasers and recently released products. so thanks for your somewhat outdated (yet still acceptable) suggestion, but I know they read this as well.

Also, being that here are similar issues with other companies, I'd rather not have my name, phone number, and email associated with criticizing all these companies you'd have me calling. And I don't have the time or inclination to do that.. I don't want to end up a grumpy old man sitting around chasing people I don't agree with. Kind of like.. well... you know...

And while you like to tinker, I highly doubt you've created a mass market worthy body kit that others would like. In fact, you alluded to that as the reason why you would not post pictures of your projects.

Meanwhile, you disparage everyone who buys mass produced parts? Serious? What's next? You are going to blow a butt vein when someone buys a Whipple supercharger because they didn't buy the metal and rent a CNC machine? Dude please just stop. It's embarassing - to YOU. Next I will probably have to referee a post war between you and the guys runnning around with "dat dangnabbed store bought" Boss intake manifolds...

And I said my exhaust system wasn't pretty. I didn't say it was crappy. It was a flush welded, full setup from the manifolds back. didn't even go the big end over little end route. It was pretty custom. The H pipe was also flush welded and it sure woke up that little engine as well as sounded awesome. but whatever, I am not here to joing your reminisce party.

And by the way, customizing something is simply changing it the way you want. whether you are limited by your own skill or by what is available on the market isn't even the point. did you make it different than the way you bought it by adding or subtracting something to it? then it is.. ___________. Yes, this is a fill in the blank to keep you on track for your next "rebuttal" post. Your inexplicable aversion to buying parts to customize your vehicle makes you seem like a digruntled Pep Boys employee.

You talk about checkbook customization like it's some kind of bad thing. Maybe to you. Because you make all of these wonderful creations in your yard that you are apparently pleased with. Meanwhile, the company 200 miles from you just made something that makes yours look like you made it yourself (feel free to read this sentence two or three times in order to process what it says). So I think it would be OK to buy something you like. And if you don't like it and cannot make it (again cost and infrastructure issues that go beyond your comprehension for some reason - no one is going to buy a CNC maching just to make themselves one or even a few parts - but it could be justified if you were making tons of parts and selling them), then you can say soemthing and hope to be heard. And even if you aren't heard, that's life. Sheesh I feel like I am counseling a child... who somehow is really old.

And the idea that buying a well designed part is spending money on sommething I am not passionate about when I said I am passionate about design is just stupid. At that point, my passion would still be desing, right? and I would be buying something that is DESIGNED to my liking... so logic dictates that i have therefore spent money on something I am passionate about. If it isn't to my liking, I don't buy and therefore have spent no money at all. I will stop there, before I need to start charging you for lessons in life and logic. I mean, seriously. I don't even know you personally, but if the combination of your username, your avatar graphic, and the quote at the bottom of your posts isn't a DESPERATE cry for help, then I don't know what is.

This isn't about your hacksaw skills. This is about design. And if you thought taking a saw to cut out the metal behind the fake scoops to Make them OPEN (remember lesson from last post - NOT FUNCTIONAL) so that the tire gets more air... then I don't really need to know any more about your idea of engineering a design.

Try as you might to make this thread about you and your tinkering, it isn't. Sorry to break it to you. It is about Cervini's newly designed body kit parts and by extension these kinds of parts in general.

So feel free to critique the design, praise it, or whatever, but my gosh, no need to hijack the thread. Contribute or move along (silently).

 

[Brent302]

I would love to see this hood from Cervini but try and combine the stock heat extractors.

 

[9secondko]

I would love to see this hood from Cervini but try and combine the stock heat extractors.

That's muuch more sleek than the new one.

That hood looks like it fits better on the new car and the new hood looks more at home on the old car IMHO.

They can do slick and sleek. Hopefuly this style is just one of many.

 

[SkapeGote]

Seems uninspired. I love me a retro Mustang but this just seems to not work. I think we need someone to design a kit without louvers and with some originality.

Skape

 

[Herr_Poopschitz]

Mr. grumps,


Truncated for overuse of emotional nonsense...

Assume much? Jeez. There's that name calling again, too, classy and mature all at the same time.

You've posted more negativity in this thread than anyone else.

I didn't come into this thread to talk about myself, as you declare...it was to tell you to stop whining, as you do in many of the posts in this thread, and if you didn't like a design, to make something yourself. This was met w/ excuses from you about how you "can't" do it and saying I'm a hack. You call me a troll, then accuse me of calling you one. I tell you to contact companies directly, and you give me reasoning about social media and insinuate I have no business sense. Even if Cervini's has people monitoring forums, this still does not refute what I told you...your method is inefficient...but you'd rather argue and insult. You have an argument against every piece of advice I give...yet you call me the know-it-all. Interesting...I think you've made this thread about you...based on the number of and length of posts...

You go so far as to psychoanalyze my username, avatar, and signature like you think you're Dr Phil...wrongly, I might add. Sorry you don't follow Formula 1 or have a sense of humor...you just don't "get it"...and that's ok, some don't...it's not meant for you. The arrogance in making conclusions about it is amazing however...as well as calling me a know-it-all while doing it.

Elderly? Not even sure how you concluded that one.

Sad.

I don't like the 'kit' as a whole, but there are plenty of individual parts that are going to be sold in large quantities from it, and Cervini's will make a lot of $. They know what they're doing. Maybe as a side effect some heads will explode.

 

[9secondko]

Assume much? Jeez. There's that name calling again, too, classy and mature all at the same time.

You've posted more negativity in this thread than anyone else.

I didn't come into this thread to talk about myself, as you declare...it was to tell you to stop whining, as you do in many of the posts in this thread, and if you didn't like a design, to make something yourself. This was met w/ excuses from you about how you "can't" do it and saying I'm a hack. You call me a troll, then accuse me of calling you one. I tell you to contact companies directly, and you give me reasoning about social media and insinuate I have no business sense. Even if Cervini's has people monitoring forums, this still does not refute what I told you...your method is inefficient...but you'd rather argue and insult. You have an argument against every piece of advice I give...yet you call me the know-it-all. Interesting...I think you've made this thread about you...based on the number of and length of posts...

You go so far as to psychoanalyze my username, avatar, and signature like you think you're Dr Phil...wrongly, I might add. Sorry you don't follow Formula 1 or have a sense of humor...you just don't "get it"...and that's ok, some don't...it's not meant for you. The arrogance in making conclusions about it is amazing however...as well as calling me a know-it-all while doing it.

Elderly? Not even sure how you concluded that one.

Sad.

I don't like the 'kit' as a whole, but there are plenty of individual parts that are going to be sold in large quantities from it, and Cervini's will make a lot of $. They know what they're doing. Maybe as a side effect some heads will explode.

Here you go again.

No need to justify yourself. It's been quoted for posterity.

And I didn't post negativity. I simply revealed the negativity that already existed with you.

And phrases like "well la tee dah" definitely date you.

You started the whining and the nonsense. I showed you the error of your ways and finished it for you.

You came into a thread you said you didn't care about to complain about people critiquing the design (something most of us DO care about, regardless of who the designer is) of "checkbook customization" and went off on a rabbit trail Bout how nothing by matters unless you tinker up your own parts. It was irrelevant to the thread, to my particular posts, and was simply a "look at me! I make my own parts in my yard" type of attention grab. It worked. But it was definitely not the attention you'd want. Here is a suggestion for you: Next time, don't enter a thread to debate your philosophical ideas on whether an automotive product/service/genre should exist or not. Simply go with the flow of addressing pros and cons. And if you really have zero to contribute, whether pro or con, it's probably best to find a thread you can contribute to. But to enter a thread concerning a body kit and then disparage anyone critiquing it simply because you believe everyone should fab there own stuff is asinine.

Move along now and apply the lessons learned here in more relevant posts for another day.

 

[PDX5oh3]

:headbonk:

 

[Herr_Poopschitz]

Here you go again.

No need to justify yourself. It's been quoted for posterity.

And I didn't post negativity. I simply revealed the negativity that already existed with you.

And phrases like "well la tee dah" definitely date you.

You started the whining and the nonsense. I showed you the error of your ways and finished it for you.

You came into a thread you said you didn't care about to complain about people critiquing the design (something most of us DO care about, regardless of who the designer is) of "checkbook customization" and went off on a rabbit trail Bout how nothing by matters unless you tinker up your own parts. It was irrelevant to the thread, to my particular posts, and was simply a "look at me! I make my own parts in my yard" type of attention grab. It worked. But it was definitely not the attention you'd want. Here is a suggestion for you: Next time, don't enter a thread to debate your philosophical ideas on whether an automotive product/service/genre should exist or not. Simply go with the flow of addressing pros and cons. And if you really have zero to contribute, whether pro or con, it's probably best to find a thread you can contribute to. But to enter a thread concerning a body kit and then disparage anyone critiquing it simply because you believe everyone should fab there own stuff is asinine.

Move along now and apply the lessons learned here in more relevant posts for another day.

You missed the point. You are soooo passionate about how no one makes parts like you want, waaaah, waaaah...but conveniently not passionate enough to learn how to make your own. You "can't", and expect someone else to do it for you. God forbid someone suggest you make yoir own...blasphemy! I won't say definitively that it's CA that's influenced your perspective, but I can say that I've met others from your area who hold similar ideals...or more appropriately lack thereof.

Much like my name/av/sig...was hoping to make a connection w/ someone who might "get it", someone not scared of trying something themselves. Sadly, the idea of being self sufficient, learning, and working w/ one's hands unfortunately isn't for everyone. Shoulda known not to expect much from someone who whines/complains so much.

Yellowbullet might be a good place where we can speak candidly about this topic, if you're as 'passionate' about cars as you say and don't mind a forum w/ less rules (not that you've been abiding by this forums rules anyhow, but I at least try to)...not getting my hopes up though, it might intimidate you.

 

[Sinister]

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[9secondko]

Absolutely.

I thought he needed to be told. Didn't expect it would keep going.

Apologies.

In the interest of redirecting back to original intent:

I'm personally unimpressed with the new kit as it basically a copy of an already existing s197 kit.

The kit work on s197. But not s550.

Ie:

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-131964867535317_2368_278729628.jpg

Another that works on the old but hurts the new:

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-131964867535317_2368_22361305.jpg

More understated examples on the old platform:

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-131964867535317_2368_38904693.jpg

http://s7d4.scene7.com/is/image/Turn5/72067

Example of modern design on older cars:

http://s7d4.scene7.com/is/image/Turn5/72002

(Minus the lower bumper cover fog light openings. Lol)

 

[HoustonMustang]

You missed the point. You are soooo passionate about how no one makes parts like you want, waaaah, waaaah...but conveniently not passionate enough to learn how to make your own. You "can't", and expect someone else to do it for you. God forbid someone suggest you make yoir own...blasphemy! I won't say definitively that it's CA that's influenced your perspective, but I can say that I've met others from your area who hold similar ideals...or more appropriately lack thereof.

Much like my name/av/sig...was hoping to make a connection w/ someone who might "get it", someone not scared of trying something themselves. Sadly, the idea of being self sufficient, learning, and working w/ one's hands unfortunately isn't for everyone. Shoulda known not to expect much from someone who whines/complains so much.

Yellowbullet might be a good place where we can speak candidly about this topic, if you're as 'passionate' about cars as you say and don't mind a forum w/ less rules (not that you've been abiding by this forums rules anyhow, but I at least try to)...not getting my hopes up though, it might intimidate you.

So many words...but so little relevant content...possibly a "legend in your own mind"...

 

[Varekai]

This is what this thread is starting to remind me of

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