BMR CB006 brace to help steering stability

[Bluemustang]

Any BMR CB006 users that can comment on what they've experienced with this brace?

Now that I've got my rear end sorted, I feel like I am noticing that the front end is looser feeling in comparison. Driving down the highway at 75-80+ I can feel the deflection in the front hitting bumps and uneven road conditions, making the steering feel a little bit less than ideal.

The car tracks straight but the steering feel I think could be improved. I do have the Strut Tower brace and cowl brace and MM CC plates up front already.

I read a few reviews on AM and a few people claimed a better steering feel and more confident, safe feel driving. Can the CB006 improve this area or is this brace only something that can be felt in track driving? I'd be interested to hear opinions on how the CB006 works for people.

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[BMR Tech]

Been a while since we have chatted.

Give me a ring in about 2 hours or so if you wanna chat sir!

 

[Bluemustang]

Been a while since we have chatted.

Give me a ring in about 2 hours or so if you wanna chat sir!

Sure I might have about 10 minutes or so this afternoon. Hope you're doing well buddy.

 

[BMR Tech]

As we spoke about on the phone, I would suggest doing the following.

Ford Performance Front Control Arm Kit
*Rear Arm has a bearing, front long arm has a bushing.
*Replace the front long arm bushing with a bearing.

The other option is to simply order the "Performance Pack" control arm as it already comes with a bearing.

The Non-PP as you have, will have rubber on both pivot points on both sides.

If you pair this with the CB006, you will have a substantial change. :cheers:

Pics of the stock arms below.

 

[BMR Tech]

Here is the link to the Ford Performance Arm Kit

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-3075-F

 

[Bluemustang]

As we spoke about on the phone, I would suggest doing the following.

Ford Performance Front Control Arm Kit
*Rear Arm has a bearing, front long arm has a bushing.
*Replace the front long arm bushing with a bearing.

The other option is to simply order the "Performance Pack" control arm as it already comes with a bearing.

The Non-PP as you have, will have rubber on both pivot points on both sides.

If you pair this with the CB006, you will have a substantial change. :cheers:

Pics of the stock arms below.

Oh I like where this is going. I appreciate the chat earlier and the advice. Now that I'm looking at them I see what you are talking about. So the rear control arm has a spherical bearing but it's the front that could benefit from a bearing swap. And because I have the Base GT, my rear lower control arm has a rubber bushing which is where a lot deflection could be happening.

As we discussed, I think because my IRS has been stiffened so much that the front is comparably softer, which is leading to this feeling I alluded to.

I haven't seen much information surrounding the front control arms - as the major culprits always seemed to be found in the rear IRS. Everyone seems to focus on the rear. Although I'm forgetting that I don't have a PP which has different front control arms. But as you said, the CB006 alone may not change much because of the deflection already present in the rubber control arm mounting.

A lot more NVH potentially going to full bearings in both front lower control arms ? As you know I watched your FB live video with JPC Racing this afternoon- because of what you said I think I'm gonna ditch my diff bushings inserts. I believe it is causing unnecessary NVH (in combination with other parts) and has made my drivetrain/trans much more clunky. The benefit I gain from it is probably not worth it. I feel things that I think are directly attributable to the diff. It is a fine product but I think for me isn't worth it.

 

[BmacIL]

Instead of the kit, I would just add the rear arm of the two and order them from Levittown/Tasca/Whitebear Lake. Much cheaper.

http://parts.autonationfordwhitebea...-suspension-scat/?part_name=upper-control-arm
http://parts.autonationfordwhitebea...-suspension-scat/?part_name=upper-control-arm

 

[BMR Tech]

Yup - $120 for the pair of the bearing pieces.

Definitely a GREAT deal.
[MENTION=19599]Bluemustang[/MENTION] - get the pair of "PP" control arms for $120 and the CB006, and post back. ;)

 

[BmacIL]

These are definitely on my list, along with bars.

 

[Bluemustang]

So just buy two of them? Looks like the part # is the same in both links. Excellent, I am going to do that. I am torn between the red and the black CB006. I hear some people say they hate the red - I love it. But having seen a black one on a car, it truly looks like it should be an OEM piece. And it looks extremely strong.

The last piece to the handling is to dial in the steering better. If I could get the steering more laser sharp, this could be a heckuva car. It already is but it's the last piece missing - besides some good wide tires.

 

[BmacIL]

So just buy two of them? Looks like the part # is the same in both links. Excellent, I am going to do that. I am torn between the red and the black CB006. I hear some people say they hate the red - I love it. But having seen a black one on a car, it truly looks like it should be an OEM piece. And it looks extremely strong.

The last piece to the handling is to dial in the steering better. If I could get the steering more laser sharp, this could be a heckuva car. It already is but it's the last piece missing - besides some good wide tires.

No, different part (each link is unique L and R). Black is my preference on the brace

The other thing that is hugely noticeable for steering feel and weight is offset. If you put 20 mm hubcentric spacers on the car you'd gain a good chunk. You will have more pronounced tramlining, but the steering feel is worth it, IMO.

 

[Bluemustang]

No, different part (each link is unique L and R). Black is my preference on the brace

The other thing that is hugely noticeable for steering feel and weight is offset. If you put 20 mm hubcentric spacers on the car you'd gain a good chunk. You will have more pronounced tramlining, but the steering feel is worth it, IMO.

Thanks dude! Big help. I do not want anymore tramlining though. I took a trip up to PA to visit my brother this past weekend and there was a long stretch of highway - all grooved pavement. My car normally has very little tramlining now and it was squirming all over the road. The grooves were really bad. Evidently the top layer of the pavement had been taken out. I needed to slow down to below 40 just not to go out of control. But in most other situations I do not have any problems.

 

[Performance nut]

I have CB007 without the strut and cowl braces. It made a big difference. Only reason I didn't go with CB006 is because of clearance issues with my headers. Kelly recommended CB007 since it isn't an all out auto-x machine.

 

[Bluemustang]

Wow I can both rear control arm bearings L/R and CB006 for less than the Ford kit. That is a great deal. I have a feeling this will make a significant improvement. Add a Cortex front bearing (or BMR's once they release it), could be a beast. This will be the summer I learn to drive the track so all these improvements will eventually be well worth it.

Looking forward to REALLY learning the car and how to drive better.

 

[BmacIL]

Thanks dude! Big help. I do not want anymore tramlining though. I took a trip up to PA to visit my brother this past weekend and there was a long stretch of highway - all grooved pavement. My car normally has very little tramlining now and it was squirming all over the road. The grooves were really bad. Evidently the top layer of the pavement had been taken out. I needed to slow down to below 40 just not to go out of control. But in most other situations I do not have any problems.

Be mindful of that when you select wheels down the road. I always treat things like this to the 95% rule. If 95% of the time it doesn't bother me or isn't an issue at all, then oh well, I'll deal with the other 5%.

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