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As far as installing rear camber arms and stuff I will be doing that all myself just make sure everything is measured and marked so it's straight when putting it back together unless you plan on aligning it directly after
 

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Remember to re-clock those bushings.
 

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Ok, I've been told by mechanic's this should happen?
 

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Ok, I've been told by mechanic's this should happen?
Unless they're talking about the jam nut on the threads of either the adjustable toe links, camber arms but as far as bushings go some have tabs on them they need to be bent over..maybe
 

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This mechanic said the alignment tech's could perform this, others said after install or during?
 

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Yeah. When lowering a car, all the suspension is now angled upward slightly, putting more stress on the bushings in their “resting” positions. “Clocking” them is essentially allowing them to return to their neutral resting position so that they don’t bind or become damaged because of their lack of range of motion. I’ve heard people say it’s not an issue, I’ve heard people say it’s the end of the world if you don’t do it. I’ve worked on General Motors, Nissan and now VW’s over the past 7 years and I’ve never read any recommendations on clocking bushings. I’ve never done it myself and I’ve never had any issues, but I can’t say that there aren’t any advantages/disadvantages in doing so. Correctly clocking bushings would require the vehicles full weight to be on the suspension so the ideal time would be when the vehicle is on the alignment rack BEFORE the alignement adjustments take place
 

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Yeah. When lowering a car, all the suspension is now angled upward slightly, putting more stress on the bushings in their “resting” positions. “Clocking” them is essentially allowing them to return to their neutral resting position so that they don’t bind or become damaged because of their lack of range of motion. I’ve heard people say it’s not an issue, I’ve heard people say it’s the end of the world if you don’t do it. I’ve worked on General Motors, Nissan and now VW’s over the past 7 years and I’ve never read any recommendations on clocking bushings. I’ve never done it myself and I’ve never had any issues, but I can’t say that there aren’t any advantages/disadvantages in doing so. Correctly clocking bushings would require the vehicles full weight to be on the suspension so the ideal time would be when the vehicle is on the alignment rack BEFORE the alignement adjustments take place
Not all manufacturers use indexing teeth on their suspension bushings which necessitate the reclock. When the bolt going through here is torqued, the teeth bite in and lock a static position. It also forces the bushing to twist during suspension movement (which is a reason why people replace them with bearings). Definitely do it when lowering the car.
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Not all manufacturers use indexing teeth on their suspension bushings which necessitate the reclock. When the bolt going through here is torqued, the teeth bite in and lock a static position. It also forces the bushing to twist during suspension movement (which is a reason why people replace them with bearings). Definitely do it when lowering the car.
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Interesting. I never thought about that being one of the reasons why people replace them with bearings. Aside from the obvious (premature failure) what issues would someone encounter if they didn’t reclock the bushings?
 

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Ahhh yes I can see that I've never done it myself either but have had many lowered cars B7 RS4 Audi, GTI Rabbit VR6 swapped.. I was a master mechanic and rotary mech for Mazda, Honda, VW, Porsche, Merc... like I said I've never done it I can only see it happening with cars with original bushings and lots of miles..my car is mostly spherical
 

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Now that o think about it I did have a issue with bushings on a E.G. hatch Honda rear control arm bushings this was long before those control arms came out with solid aluminium bushings.. I can't believe how far Ford and GM have come as far as tech... I switched over from the import scene after I drove a 06 GTO.. still have a place in my heart for imports though
 

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Interesting. I never thought about that being one of the reasons why people replace them with bearings. Aside from the obvious (premature failure) what issues would someone encounter if they didn’t reclock the bushings?
The ride generally is noticeably worse as well.
 

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The ride generally is noticeably worse as well.
Yeah I could imagine it would be pretty bad my 15 GTPP with the spring rate I run is not a great ride either but then again I only drive it 1 to 2 times a week if that.. I have a SHO and a ecoboost fusion I drive daily both completely stock and they'll stay that way
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