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agreed they would be out of sequence just due to options availability, but the starting point is what gets me scratching my head. oh well.... doesn't really matter i guess
you may be right. my was build on 2/19/19 with chassis K0110 and VIN: K5550288. What interesting is that I took delivery of the car on 9/3/19 and dealer got the car from Ford on 8/27/19. I wonder why and where the car was at the Ford for that long?
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you may be right. my was build on 2/19/19 with chassis K0110 and VIN: K5550288. What interesting is that I took delivery of the car on 9/3/19 and dealer got the car from Ford on 8/27/19. I wonder why and where the car was at the Ford for that long?
The first cars thru had some bad luck and got put in a lot waiting on steering wheels I believe. guessing they were sorted to give customer ordered cars some priority when the wheels finally came in... I believe the week mine was built was about when that supply issue was fixed as I took delivery about 2 weeks after the blend date.
 

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Hopefully I have not missed this question from someone previously, but I was wondering. Has anyone done a baseline dyno comparison of an earlier GT350 vs a 2020 Gt350 motor after the updates? Hard to believe they are rated identically by Ford after making changes? Just curious if the new motor modifications make more power unadvertised?
 

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Hopefully I have not missed this question from someone previously, but I was wondering. Has anyone done a baseline dyno comparison of an earlier GT350 vs a 2020 Gt350 motor after the updates? Hard to believe they are rated identically by Ford after making changes? Just curious if the new motor modifications make more power unadvertised?
not dyno, but have chased and been chased on track by two 17's and there's no noticeable difference on the straights.... I don't think any of the changes would have materially affected the power output.
 

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Hopefully I have not missed this question from someone previously, but I was wondering. Has anyone done a baseline dyno comparison of an earlier GT350 vs a 2020 Gt350 motor after the updates? Hard to believe they are rated identically by Ford after making changes? Just curious if the new motor modifications make more power unadvertised?
This was done by MT. However, lot of owners of pre 19+ are questioning this dyno test :giggle:
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2019-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350-dyno-results/
 

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The first cars thru had some bad luck and got put in a lot waiting on steering wheels I believe. guessing they were sorted to give customer ordered cars some priority when the wheels finally came in... I believe the week mine was built was about when that supply issue was fixed as I took delivery about 2 weeks after the blend date.
yeah, I read about it. Steering wheels are build in Mexico and the factory went on strike there at the time.
 

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more "reasonable" numbers....
469 at the wheels. So, is it correct to assume that at the crank it's 539, given 469 + 15%?
 

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I think it's safe to assume its around the advertised power, everything else is just a guess unless you pull the engine and dyno at the flywheel, the 469 is on par with what motortrend found for the 2015 which was 467. diff dyno, diff temps, tooooo many variables.
 

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Hopefully I have not missed this question from someone previously, but I was wondering. Has anyone done a baseline dyno comparison of an earlier GT350 vs a 2020 Gt350 motor after the updates? Hard to believe they are rated identically by Ford after making changes? Just curious if the new motor modifications make more power unadvertised?
No changes made between 2019 and 2020. There were dyno comparisons done that initially indicated more HP for 2019, but they were questionable. Kinda like @jmn444 said, too many variables to solve the equation.
 

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This was done by MT. However, lot of owners of pre 19+ are questioning this dyno test :giggle:
https://www.motortrend.com/news/2019-ford-mustang-shelby-gt350-dyno-results/
There is no questioning it, the numbers are inaccurate. The owner of the dyno specifically said cars make more power in that environment. There was also a comparison earlier in this thread of the 2019 and pre-2019 on the same dyno and they were making near identical numbers (I say near identical because the pre-2019 actually made a little more because it was not done on the same day). All the actual tests except MotorTrend (Where the dyno operator explains the difference) are making identical power.
 

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There is no questioning it, the numbers are inaccurate. The owner of the dyno specifically said cars make more power in that environment. There was also a comparison earlier in this thread of the 2019 and pre-2019 on the same dyno and they were making near identical numbers (I say near identical because the pre-2019 actually made a little more because it was not done on the same day). All the actual tests except MotorTrend (Where the dyno operator explains the difference) are making identical power.
But the pre-19s that made similar numbers had replacement engines, which of course made them post-19s...

Sorry, couldn't resist the temptation :)
 

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But the pre-19s that made similar numbers had replacement engines, which of course made them post-19s...

Sorry, couldn't resist the temptation :)
Yeah but I have no motor issues at all and I dyno'd at 12,558 at the wheels on a stock 2017 engine. Clearly not a dyno issue. Clearly. :crackup:
 

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I had my engine replaced on my 2017 GT350 in December of last year and took the cover off and says 5.2 GT350R, so I thinking that’s the R motor? lol
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