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Might not upgrade to the 2017 350R then. Might wait for 2018.
Might not be an R for 2018 if they are winding down production and bringing the GT500 along with it, because I imagine the 500 will be utilizing carbon wheels, and I can't imagine the small supplier can keep up with production of both the R and GT500 at the same time.
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I hope the gt350 ends in 2017 and keeps it tradition like the 65/66. I don't want to see a 2018 gt350, by then it's already old news. Bring out the Cobra, gt500 or mach1 etc whatever you wanna call it.
I'm with you.
 
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There are just far too many potential customers on both OEM and Racing side. I have never heard of anything other than the GT's in the V8 lineup this Gen.

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Probably into the S650 was well.
 

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Before I could find an allocation I was wishing for more production years, now that I have the car I wish for more exclusivity and less volume. At the end of the day more years doesn't make the car less special, I guess it's frustrating if you had high hopes for an appreciating "investment"
 

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If its ok with all the experts here, I will wait for the official announcement
from Ford on what the 2018 line up will be.

I would be shocked if there is not a new GT500.
I can't imagine Ford passing up the 50th
marketing opportunity.
Agreed, all the constant talk of things being "confirmed" constantly is a bit silly.

How you enjoying the car TR? Manage to go through that second set of tires yet? :D
 

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Before I could find an allocation I was wishing for more production years, now that I have the car I wish for more exclusivity and less volume. At the end of the day more years doesn't make the car less special, I guess it's frustrating if you had high hopes for an appreciating "investment"
True, but on the other hand, it does suck for those people who have paid significant ADM on their car, believing (based on word from Ford) that the car would only be a two year run. It really seemed like your choice was either pay up or pass on owning a NEW gt350, especially the 'R' models. If production continues for the next several years, ADM almost certainly will drop off.

Sure, those people did still get their cars, but if the gt350 does continue, then it does feel just a little like the whole supply/demand situation was engineered just to make some extra money. Not saying it was, but I can certainly see some justification for people being a little upset.
 

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Good to know there will be 2018 GT350 as i may still have a chance to get one if these dealers start being more reasonable.
 

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Additional models years aren't a concern for me that much as long as Ford is only making around 5000 a year, but wait until Ford decides to flood the market with 10K or 20K of them, because "market demand" ADMs will go away, but used market demand will go away. too.
 

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I'm hoping for the same as well. Keep the GT350 exclusive. The 5.2 could easily come out as a 5.2 CPC version in a Mach 1 variant and be sold right alongside the GT500. Ford stated they wouldn't produce 2 Shelby's at the same time, so I sincerely doubt they will wait until 2020 to bring back the GT500. No point in making the Mach 1 the Hellcat fighter and take away the "top dog" position of the GT500.

They could still quite easily enter a Mustang GT4 with a 5.2 CPC for racing purposes, while also promoting two new products in the Mach 1 with a 5.2 NA CPC, and the GT500 with possibly a TT 5.2 CPC. Keep the 350 exclusive and special, bring two new products to the line with their own respective unique characteristics, and keep sales, interest, and demand high.
This has long been my wish. We've seen the Aluminator 5.2 XS engine can produce some serious n/a HP (570+)........I wonder what figures a "production" version would produce.....an easy 500?

Such an engine would fit nicely into a Mach 1 and a supercharged or (preferably) TT version should make an easy 750+ HP in a GT500.

Would there still be room for a GT350 with a FPC?

In an ideal world we'd have this line up for the '18/'19/'20MYs:

GT - 460hp 5.0 n/a
Mach 1 - 500hp 5.2 CPC n/a and 10-speed auto option
GT350 - 526hp 5.2 FPC and DCT option (I'm playing along ;) )
GT500 - 750+ hp 5.2 CPC FI and 10-speed auto option

Unlikely, probably, but that'd be a dream line-up :ford:
 

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I can somewhat sympathize with those who wanted Ford to stick to 2 years for the GT350 so that their car would be worth more one day and they could get over the ADM that they paid.

BUT things changed.

-Ford built the Ford GT and won Le Mans and placed 2nd in IMSA WEC Team and Manufacturer points in their 1st year.
-Ford doubled the length of the FGT production and race program.
-The GT350R-C won everything in IMSA CTSC.
-Ford united it's special vehicle teams under Ford Performance with heavy weight support throughout Ford.
-IMSA, PWC, and FIA are all uniting under FIA GT4 specs starting in 2017.
-Lots of other manufacturers will be joining and giving GT4 a much higher profile in OEM racing.

Why wouldn't Ford Performance want to take the GT350R-C to FIA GT4 racing, and make the GT350 and GT350R available to FIA racing fans world wide?

So what would happen if they said "No! Those darn Ford stores charged ADMs to people who wanted an exclusive car that would appreciate in value. Let's continue our GT4 racing program by changing the name to 'Mustang GT4'."

Then all of the new development for power, weight, styling etc. would go into the new car and let's assume there would be a GT4, a GT4R, and a GT4R-C. And let's assume the R-C were to continue it's winning ways in IMSA, PWC and FIA.

How many GT350 owners would be pissed that Ford built a new history with a new name and left the historical GT350 name behind? How many GT350 owners would now be willing to pay another ADM to get a GT4? What would happen to the value of the 15-17 GT350s?

It seems to me that owning a GT350 with a world wide name in GT4 racing for many years could be a better deal. I know of one chicken farmer that would probably love that idea.
 

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This has long been my wish. We've seen the Aluminator 5.2 XS engine can produce some serious n/a HP (570+)........I wonder what figures a "production" version would produce.....an easy 500?

Such an engine would fit nicely into a Mach 1 and a supercharged or (preferably) TT version should make an easy 750+ HP in a GT500.

Would there still be room for a GT350 with a FPC?

In an ideal world we'd have this line up for the '18/'19/'20MYs:

GT - 460hp 5.0 n/a
Mach 1 - 500hp 5.2 CPC n/a and 10-speed auto option
GT350 - 526hp 5.2 FPC and DCT option (I'm playing along ;) )
GT500 - 750+ hp 5.2 CPC FI and 10-speed auto option

Unlikely, probably, but that'd be a dream line-up :ford:
I was honestly very surprised by the Aluminators output, considering it has a CPC. Since the FPC is supposed to be so much more efficient, I'm curious as to whether Ford left a decent chunk on the table for reliability purposes, or whether emissions and fuel economy hampered output whereas the Aluminator does not have to worry about passing any of those tests correct?

I feel like if it made it to production, there's no way it would produce more than the FPC version, since that would debunk the whole reason for going with the FPC to begin with IMO haha

I could see the 5.2CPC making 475-480hp in a production Mach 1. Would be enough of a power bump over the 5.0L, plus it would sound different than the 5.0L as well with the larger displacement. Wouldn't step on the GR350's toes if the 350 had just stopped production, thus keeping it special in its own rights and also allowing the GT500 to come in to take the headlines with massive hp numbers. Going by the power bumps for the 5.0 the last number of years, I imagine we'll see 450hp out of the refresh, another 15hp jump like it did previously.

Love your lineup, except the fact that the 350 is still there, remove that and it's perfect :thumbsup: :lol:
 
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Word is Roush homologated the platform and drivetrain in April.

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/2016...the-new-pirelli-world-challenge-s550-mustang/

Roush homologated the GT350 for '18 and beyond in PWC under the new GT4 Regulation. The 2015-'17 will always be special because they were IMSA GS Homologated Cars. Like the 1965-1966 Era GT350's were in the over 2 liter class until it changed in 1967.

The 2015-2017 GT350's are IMSA GS cars and they dominated the series and ushered in a new era like the original. The 2018-2020 GT350's are taking it up a notch to GT4. Truly a mix of Sports Coupes and Sports Cars. The GT350 and Mustang are evolving into World Class Sports Cars right before our eyes.


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