2016 GT350 Sequential Gearbox?

[w3rkn]

I have a 6m in my 135is, could've optioned it with the DCT, but like rowing my own gears and have for 30 years.

I have driven many cars with various autos, but none felt right. I just hope Ford (& GM) released their 9 & 10spd transmissions and they are over engineered to handle stuff. I may choose auto if it feels right.


What I don't understand is, why they just don't have clutchless manuals that you still row the box, but each gate is a seliniod for gear selection. Almost like a paddle, but an actual stick instead..! Easy & simple!

I hate flippers because you can't go from 2 to 4... while rowing my own gears I can... or putting in neutral to coast down long hills on highways, etc.. or, to let gravity roll you backwards out of a drive, etc.

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[Swoope]

I have a 6m in my 135is, could've optioned it with the DCT, but like rowing my own gears and have for 30 years.

I have driven many cars with various autos, but none felt right. I just hope Ford (& GM) released their 9 & 10spd transmissions and they are over engineered to handle stuff. I may choose auto if it feels right.


What I don't understand is, why they just don't have clutchless manuals that you still row the box, but each gate is a seliniod for gear selection. Almost like a paddle, but an actual stick instead..! Easy & simple!

I hate flippers because you can't go from 2 to 4... while rowing my own gears I can... or putting in neutral to coast down long hills on highways, etc.. or, to let gravity roll you backwards out of a drive, etc.

this whole new car thing started about a year ago with some silly deals on Z4s 335is in fla.. drove a few, two with the dct i think bmw calls it. 7 speed.

meh!

beers

 

[Trackaholic]

have always been fascinated by the rev match feature for a manual.. i really have a lot of time invested in heel toe, but still i botch it just enough on rare occasion..

dont know why in this day and age the mustang does not offer it in the manual. for those that say it needs more sensors, i call crap. the ecu knows what is happening everywhere. it can figure it out.
beers

The need for sensors could be debated.

Typically you'd want sensors to determine what gear the driver is about to engage so the ECU can rev the engine to the proper RPM based on wheel speed. Without a sensor you wouldn't know the correct gear.

Or would you? I do think that you might be able to have a version where the software checks to see if you are braking and what the lateral and longitudinal accelerations are. If you are hard on the brakes, it would assume a downshift (one gear at a time) and rev-match accordingly.

The issue with that approach is that it makes assumptions that may not be correct. However, you might be able to mitigate that by being careful about where the feature would be used and making sure its operation is well understood. Still, no sensors would probably impose limitations on the system that the use of sensors could avoid. Now that some companies have done it very well, you might not want to employ a half-assed, sensor-less approach and have people complain about the limitations of the system. Might be better to just add the sensors and have something very robust.

-T

 

[Devon]

Some tunes (such as the leading one for the Toyobaru twins) offer rev-matching as an option, obviously without a sensor. However from the threads I saw at FT86.net it seemed like it was not a fully successful implementation.

 

[Texican1911]

I've heard there is research indicating only 2% of the American driving population can drive a stick.

 

[OppoLock]

I've heard there is research indicating only 2% of the American driving population can drive a stick.

Roughly 5% of all vehicles on the road have manual transmissions. But remember that statistics aren't worth much without context; lumping all road-going vehicles into one stat isn't going to be very representative.

You won't find a Benz with a manual, but roughly 35-40% of C7 buyers opt for three pedals. 10% of 911 drivers will row their own gears, too. E90/E92 M3s had a +40% take rate, and the option is still there for the new M3/M4.

I just found these numbers doing a web search for said vehicle names and 'manual percent' within the last year, so they're up to date. Apologies for lack of citation.

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