2015 mustang weight?

[S550Boss]

Their article says a whole lot of nothing in a lot of paragraphs. And their source is just "some guy", who could as far as anybody knows just be a dealer salesman (who know nothing, and won't know anything for some time). Or a janitor on the assembly line who claims this is a Fusion underneath. Sheesh.
One number is in the neighborhood - the length. Although I measured it as a few inches longer using one of the spy pictures. The new car is shorter than the old, all in the rear, and it rides on the exact same wheelbase (another give-away).
But they are wrong about the width - it's the same up front, within a few tenths. The rear is wider (look at the track on the mules, and the position of the fuel filler door). We can see that clearly on the mules from the rear suspension - another advantage of analyzing the mules. And you can see that the front suspension didn't change in track from the mules as well (especially the engine compartment shot).
The weight? We can't do anything but wait and see, but I believe that 200 will be a stretch and part of that 200 would be from the 4 cylinder instead of the 6. You can only do so much on what is an evolution of the old chassis, not a new chassis.
Of course, it could stick with the cheap-ass hard plastic interior because that doesn't weigh much.

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[Callie]

A few inches off? You're saying the Mustang is going to be around 175" length, on the same wheelbase, and that it's all from the rear overhang? I find this very hard to believe.

How long is the current rear overhang right now?

 

[Ponywars]

I'm not going to discount this rumor entirely. What if it's possible?

Maybe not 14 inches but 10? There's a lot of overhang that can be tucked in right now. Losing that shark nose would do a lot already. Losing 10 inches alone has to equate to 100 pounds lighter already I wuld think. I doubt the width will be that narrow but an inch here and there.... possible IMO.

Also dont forget about height. If it's lower and less bulky vertically (which it looks like) there's more savings there. Add a touch of aluminum over steell and we could get 300.

 

[Lavien]

Wow is it just the craziness of these rumors that's leaving people in disbelief.... I'm surprised this hasnt gotten more air time here and elsewhere.
400 pounds would be AMAZING. It is totally believable if they shed that much length and some of the width and use more aluminum.

It also says they are going more up market in price with the high end models. 10% increase over the GT500's price would put it just about $60K. I bet they put some carbon fiber in there to make it even lighter. This has me even more friggin excited!

 

[fastback69]

10% for the GT would be a $3K increase to $34K. If the approx 10% is not across the board, they better put some major separation between the mid level trim (I4?) and the GT.

One interesting possibility is that in addition to the engine and better interior, the GT trim gets more aluminum (therefore lighter) than the lower level trims. That could be a good draw for a larger percentage price increase between V6/I4 and GT.

By the way, anyone else notice they said FASTBACK before the vert....

 

[Allerick]

10% for the GT would be a $3K increase to $34K. If the approx 10% is not across the board, they better put some major separation between the mid level trim (I4?) and the GT.

One interesting possibility is that in addition to the engine and better interior, the GT trim gets more aluminum (therefore lighter) than the lower level trims. That could be a good draw for a larger percentage price increase between V6/I4 and GT.

Not a bad idea, but I feel like Ford is going to want to make the I4 as light as possible. It is going to be the trim they quote MPG for in the commercials while they show a GT driving around. So they are going to squeeze every bit out of it to get the EPA estimate high. It doesn't mean that they won't use aluminum to make it lighter, but I doubt they will make the GT lighter than the I4. I could see them keeping the V6 heavier than the other two to keep the price down.

There you go. They can quote the MPG of the I4, show the GT, and end with the "Starting At" price of the V6. Boom! Marketing...

 

[thePill]

WHOA WHOA WHOA!!! Ummmmm.... Not sure about the 400lbs thing.

Not sure about the tiny dimensions as well...

I can see maybe 8-10 inches off the front and rear overhangs, keep the 107.1 inch wheelbase because it is near optimal (106-108) but I can't see a 67" width, not with the track looking to be wider than the S197. I do remember Ford had an internal percentage weight loss goal that equaled 366lbs... If they achieved that and go down to a 179L, stay with 107.1WB and keep around a 72-74 W/T (52-53H), there will be a huge panic in the sports car world.

 

[5.0GT]

We are going to very lucky is it's 200 pounds off the current s197.

 

[Thed]

So one of my guys at Ford said that the EB Stang will weigh in at around 3200 LBS.

If that really is true, the Corvette better be worried.

 

[5.0GT]

So one of my guys at Ford said that the EB Stang will weigh in at around 3200 LBS.

If that really is true, the Corvette better be worried.

I seriously doubt that. 3200 # would mean carbon fiber, aluminum, totally different frame design from what he have been hearing... very expensive there.

 

[Prodigy]

3200 isn't THAT crazy for the I4 and you don't even need to use CF to get there. I think it's 100 pounds off the engine alone compared to the GT. A lighter engine also can mean lighter springs etc... all the little things that add up.

The other 200 pounds could come from reduction of overhangs (esp if 10" or more is real), some height reduction, a sprinkle of aluminum in place of steel, better use of interior space, and all the little grams saved here and there.

 

[Thed]

I seriously doubt that. 3200 # would mean carbon fiber, aluminum, totally different frame design from what he have been hearing... very expensive there.

Hence the "If that really is true..."

 

[KZStang]

I would presume "smarter" use of space would mean getting rid of a lot of the excess unusable space, much of which is in the overhangs. Smart.

I bet they found a way to keep interior space mostly the same as well. A good place to take a page from the German cars.

Whether they reached it or not, it is good to know they have such ambitious goals for weight and size reduction.

 

[Thed]

I just had a second engineer tell me 3200... And right at 300 HP.

Oh shit.

 

[Falc'man]

I just had a second engineer tell me 3200... And right at 300 HP.

Oh shit.

If that's true this car will be very hard to top for overall performance. That power figure is where I thought it would be. Even if the V6 comes in with 350hp the Ecoboost will still flog it.

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