2015 Mustang EPA DATA!!!! for most models.... UPDATE 2 ALL MODELS

[e30og]

99% of people are not buying this car to be practical!! These cars are meant for fun and to MOD like crazy and enjoy driving. If 3-5 MPG is a decision for you buy something else.
I ordered a 5.0 but I have spoken with a few tuners who think the ecoboost can run a 10 second quarter mile. I bet both models are fun to mod and enjoy doing it.

The v-6 uh.........

I am buying it for practicality, I just want power and good looks too. Fortunately or unfortunately this will be a DD for me. Would love a V8 but its too much for my pockets. Def going to drive one when it comes out, it sounds awesome. I have zero gripes about the mileage for every model, although I have a sneaking suspicion the V6 will be right where it was with the last generation in real world driving.

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[e30og]

Moderator, clean up on aisle 2.

For the record, over the years I've owned a V8 Mustang, I've generally seen them hit within the number range with a mix of city and highway driving (split 50-50 or 60-40). It is my opinion that these ratings are solid, and I still find it amazing that my "old-tech" 2010 vintage 4.6L V8, with 120 less hp, has similar ratings to the updated 5.0L. I also find it amazing that the new 2.3L I4, with virtually the same hp and torque rating at that same "old-tech" 4.6L achieves 31mpg on the highway.

And anyone who is getting the V6 model will also have a great performing car with reasonable fuel economy.

I challenge anyone to hypermile drive these cars and prove "you're better" by doing that, rather than browbeating someone about their choice. I'm just glad to have that choice!

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[DonLafond]

It depends how long you keep it. I live in New England. Our cars evaporate due to calcium chloride used to treat the roads. Combined with heat it makes for a great battery that dissolves fasteners. Say your turbo takes a dump just out of warranty, my GT is N/A, if the exhaust needs to be replaced it must be time for coated long tubes

Even if it's under warranty is i Ford's problem that the car is used in an environment that causes the extraction and replacement of broken fasteners? It depends on the dealer.

The current 5.0 is proven and simple (respectively) oil changes are the only thing that would cost more due to oil quantity and that is negligible.

Need a 5.0 injector go to a parts store, need an Eco DI or HP fuel pump pull down your pants.

The factory extended warranty is strongly encouraged for EcoBoost owners because not much will fail under the standard time but when it does, mine is gonna be cheaper to fix.

Thanks Tim, I was on the edge whether to buy the extended warranted or not, after your post, I definitely am spending the extra cash. Do they sell 200k mile warranties? I plan to keep this baby a while. I've gotta go start a thread on warranties, I haven't heard anyone talking about them yet.

 

[BigShow]

I get 22 mpg on the highway with the Avalanche. In the city I routinely get over 16 mpg. And towing a 23 ft inboard it got 12 to 13 mpg. Trucks are headed for 30 mpg highway. Why is the Mustang backsliding?

 

[Tim Hilliard]

Thanks Tim, I was on the edge whether to buy the extended warranted or not, after your post, I definitely am spending the extra cash. Do they sell 200k mile warranties? I plan to keep this baby a while. I've gotta go start a thread on warranties, I haven't heard anyone talking about them yet.

The factory powertrain extended warranties seem pretty good, not a bad way to go if you're planning on keeping your car for a long time. Car's have been so complex in the last 15-20 years that it becomes more difficult to DIY them.

 

[DonLafond]

The factory powertrain extended warranties seem pretty good, not a bad way to go if you're planning on keeping your car for a long time. Car's have been so complex in the last 15-20 years that it becomes more difficult to DIY them.

I'm more a DIFM type guy when it comes to cars, but computers on the other hand...

 

[Tim Hilliard]

Cleaned up. Please re-read the forum rules about inter-model bashing. Enough with it already.

I always miss everything, I don't have any new PM's and can still post....


All this MPG talk makes me laugh, when we were on the gas price spike/economy downturn in the early 2000's my Brother made a valid point. At that point SUV values dropped like a rock, everyone was on the eco kick and his point was you can pick up a nice truck/suv right now for peanuts. Who cares what it gets for mileage, gas, at the end of the day is still dirt cheap.

That said will the Eco beat the GT at the pump, yes of course it will, will most of us notice the difference? No. If you spend another 10-20 bucks a week on fuel and notice that, you are not in a position to be buying anything new.

The comparisons between buying an ECO vs GT based on projected costs broken down over any period of time is weak at best and again you may be better served circling the wagons until your position improves. When I'm seeing estimates of $200+ a month ownership cost delta between a Mustang vs.Mustang, umm yeah call me a skeptic or cancel your FIOS service. I don't see it. If you're ok making a rent/house payment for a car you obviously are living beyond your means.

I want an Eco, but I want a GT more. I grew up with turbo 4 Fords, this new one will be awesome, I hope no one got the impression I was bashing anyone's decision to buy one. It's a bargain compared to the GT which is a steal for what you get.

I will continue to call out the nit-pickers who have to complain about 1MPG on a stupid window sticker for a car that for all intensive purpose in not a practical purchase. Yes everyone else see's this as you complaining. How about we just wait for our cars to be delivered to us and make the determination our selves. I would love to see one in person but I have begun to think I want to see it the first time when I pick mine up.

 

[Sal JC]

^ What he said

 

[Spartan]

99% of people are not buying this car to be practical!! These cars are meant for fun and to MOD like crazy and enjoy driving. If 3-5 MPG is a decision for you buy something else.

I don't agree that 99% of the people are buying this car to not be practical.

The 2015 Mustang has bridged the gap between sports car and practical car many people are buying this car because is going to be a practical daily driver but also looks amazing and has the looks of the mustang.

And with the information that was out there many of us were just expecting a tad bit better miles per gallon on the GT and also the eco-boost. All the marketing hype I don't think that was unrealistic to expect 1 to 2 mile per gallon increase in the GT.

I hope everyone here gets way better gas mileage that's what's on the sticker.

 

[Feeshta]

Every category, including handling, will be dominated by the S550 GT over your old Bimmer. Every category. This should be the case anyway...it's 14 years later.

I don't give two craps about categories or numbers, and the passage of time doesn't necessarily mean progress has occured in all areas. I care about how much confidence it inspires on a bumpy, narrow, off camber, blind turn, just plain evil back road, and how much fun it is to hustle down said road. No Mustang ever built prior to this one has come remotely close to touching my 14 year old BMW in that respect, and nobody has been allowed to drive this one yet, so I will believe it when I see it. Hell, some modern BMWs can't touch it either, as they seem to have lost their way with steering feel and handling balance, etc. The 540i is better on a back road than my 2009 135i was, by a pretty noticeable margin.

So for $210 a month buy a Fiesta stick and enjoy your 435HP Mustang. If you can't justify the expense don't buy a GT or an EcoBoost for that matter because many of the "savings" you are quoting are near impossible in the real world. Do you think the turbocharged Eco is going to cheaper to maintain?

To quote my Wife: "Good don't buy a GT, mine will be built sooner"

What savings are out of reach? The only area that is even remotely disputable is fuel costs, as the others are set in stone. Also, your bit about the fiesta doesn't make literal sense at all. What?

I've actually been extremely generous to the GT in my calculations for fuel costs, as I used 21 MPG average for the GT and 25 for the Ecoboost, as I suspect Ford is overstating the EB numbers a bit. You need premium fuel to get full power in the GT, and in my experience cars just don't run correctly on regular, so I will be fueling with premium. My current car takes mid grade, but runs so much better on premium that I haven't bought a tank of mid grade since 2012.

As far as maintenance costs, it's unlikely to be too much of a difference unless a design flaw rear it's head. I plan on being proactive about the carbon buildup issue that bothers nearly all direct injected engines if I buy an ecoboost, but other than that I don't see much potential for major issues. Turbo engines are not the maintenance nightmares people (mostly V8 fanboys) make them out to be. You might have to replace a turbo down the line somewhere, and a couple rubber hoses here and there, but that's nothing compared to the $7400 premium you pay upfront for the V8.

 

[stilesg57]

I don't give two craps about categories or numbers, and the passage of time doesn't necessarily mean progress has occured in all areas. I care about how much confidence it inspires on a bumpy, narrow, off camber, blind turn, just plain evil back road, and how much fun it is to hustle down said road. No Mustang ever built prior to this one has come remotely close to touching my 14 year old BMW in that respect, and nobody has been allowed to drive this one yet, so I will believe it when I see it. Hell, some modern BMWs can't touch it either, as they seem to have lost their way with steering feel and handling balance, etc. The 540i is better on a back road than my 2009 135i was, by a pretty noticeable margin.



What savings are out of reach? The only area that is even remotely disputable is fuel costs, as the others are set in stone. Also, your bit about the fiesta doesn't make literal sense at all. What?

I've actually been extremely generous to the GT in my calculations for fuel costs, as I used 21 MPG average for the GT and 25 for the Ecoboost, as I suspect Ford is overstating the EB numbers a bit. You need premium fuel to get full power in the GT, and in my experience cars just don't run correctly on regular, so I will be fueling with premium. My current car takes mid grade, but runs so much better on premium that I haven't bought a tank of mid grade since 2012.

As far as maintenance costs, it's unlikely to be too much of a difference unless a design flaw rear it's head. I plan on being proactive about the carbon buildup issue that bothers nearly all direct injected engines if I buy an ecoboost, but other than that I don't see much potential for major issues. Turbo engines are not the maintenance nightmares people (mostly V8 fanboys) make them out to be. You might have to replace a turbo down the line somewhere, and a couple rubber hoses here and there, but that's nothing compared to the $7400 premium you pay upfront for the V8.

Dude, if you're trying to be even remotely intellectually honest about the pure, comparative economic value of the EB vs. the value of the GT and you're looking for validation on this forum, GOOD F'ING LUCK.

See my thread on the true add'l cost of the GT over a 6yr ownership period (no matter how you cut it, it's a good deal over $10k more) and you'll see all you need to.

Not saying the GT isn't awesome, just that the way Ford has priced it, the EB is a substantially better value. People who disagree are either very well off, don't like numbers, or are fanboys...and I'm glad they are in the Mustang family, but I'm also glad that they've very clearly demonstrated that I don't need advice from them.

What I'm saying is: give up on trying to make the point you're trying to push on this forum immediately. Like, yesterday.

 

[JoeDogInKC]

We GT owners pay a premium and IMO subsidize quite a bit of cost on the lower models. I agree that the EB and even v6 are better values than the v8 is. But there is no substitute for that v8 sound and feel. I'm glad that I can afford it and help support the Mustang community as a whole. While we subsidize cost, we wouldn't even have Mustang's to drive without those that keep volumes alive, and that distinction belongs to the v6 and EB buyers.

 

[Brent302]

And people thought I was bad at the start. Lol [emoji481]

So much unnecessary arguing in this thread. Be happy the cars are being built and quit stabbing at eachother.

 

[dubster99]

I wonder how good the mileage will be with my 3.73's

 

[Spartan]

I wonder how good the mileage will be with my 3.73's

Bahahaha ;)

Have we found a window sticker yet for the eco boost automatic and the GT manual?

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