What does impress you? The current R is running 11s on a tune only. For a 2 liter 4 Cylinder motor that's very impressive.
You missed my edit. mustangs can run 11s stock on radials. Whats your point? Evos running 10s on stock turbos is impressive. Sts making 1000whp on closed decks are impressive. Sti running 10s on stock turbo is impressive ( while not the norm for an sti like it is for an evo). The r is a neat car and i like them. But its not an impressive car. :shrug:
And soon, the FoRS will further outshine them
Im very excited to see what the rs does. I'm gonna be salty when one walks my gt with tune/intake/headers with just a tune.
I didnt say tune only. You limited it to that. The r will never be superior to the sti or evo. When an r running 10s on a stock turbo, is wide spread news, ill be impressed. Quick is a subjective term, to me its slow as shit. i just have a difference of what is fast and what is impressive. Btw 10s isnt fast to me either. Is quick but it isnt fast.
The problem with the VW is the same thing that has plagued the brand for years, lack of interest resulting in a weaker aftermarket. It is just too expensive to get a high horsepower (newer) VW built. I don't think we will ever see the R running more impressive times because the owners never really seem interested in doing it. Pretty much have to go with a MKIII VR6 to make a fast VW.
That's what I am saying. A simple 3076 will get you 400whp on a 2.0T, but after that there are a lot of other issues. If that is all you want then it is a good platform. The interest really isn't there for anything more. I've been into the VW scene for years and love them. I was going to get a MK7 but decided on the EB instead.
most super cars arent all that impressive in straight line speed. Im not trying to set any standard. 10s to me is like playing around in a 13 second car for most. Its fun but its slow (10s being fun for me not 13s). I generally always build 8-9 second cars street hustling cars. The end potential of the r or gti will not be as good as the sti or Evo. Stock turbo or upgraded. It doesn't compare. you will spend more for power out of a vw over either sti or evo. Nothing like spending more for slower. Id rather play with a honda then a vw. Thats saying something:lol: maybe to the people you hang around 10 is crazy fast. the people i hang out with find 10s slow. The majority of people on yellowbullet, the forum i post on the most would laugh hysterically at 10s. 9s is slow to them. they are all about 6-7s and low 8 second cars.
Again you're not normal. Any factory car doing 10s is impressive to 99% of people. Car culture doesnt make sense. You couldn't give me a 9 second Honda I would like, but I would drive a 13 second gti all day. That's the great thing about cars, to each their own. And trucks! Don't get me started on trucks, I just don't get the hype about them.
define normal for us. :cheers: you missed my edit again.
You cant call any car enthusiast "normal ". We're all a different brand of crazy or extreme in one way or another.