Blew up my gen3 motor and don’t know where to go from here

[SCP440]

Buy a cheap pallet jack, pull the front of the car off and with some pallets and blocks of wood you will be able to pull the motor easily on a flat surface on the subframe. Best to put the front of the car on axle stands so you have a bit of extra clearance.

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[SHOdaddy68]

Throw a used motor in, cage it, and take it to the track!

 

[junits15]

The only real choice is fix it , you need a car , any other 20 k car out there is a crap shoot, maybe better but maybe worse than the car you have . A new Ford engine comes with a 3 yr / 36k warranty and have the Dealer install . Good luck on the private shops , with a new motor install, if you need to use the warranty, the private shop may not want to take on the liability of the aftermath ( ask me I know I had a private shop do a few ks work and they were found to be at fault , and the parts were not covered I didn't want the said shop touching my car , and had all the work redone at a dealership) if Ford finds them liable. But a Dealership install is a bit different . Good luck

Paying for a dealer install for an out of warranty engine job on a now 6 year old car is bonkers.

Pay an indie shop to install a used engine, you can literally pay to do the job two times at a indie shop for what ford will charge you.

if it were me I’d do it myself.

 

[Gen 6 Mach1]

Paying for a dealer install for an out of warranty engine job on a now 6 year old car is bonkers.

Pay an indie shop to install a used engine, you can literally pay to do the job two times at a indie shop for what ford will charge you.

if it were me I’d do it myself.

All these posts are suggestions for the OP , the final decision is his . Sure you can do a used engine about 10k , compaired to the price of a new one . He still owes 11k , 15 k for a new engine installed approximately, he's in at 26 k . He does say it's high mileage 85k and issue after issue, this may be a sell off , for 6 to 10 k ,with a 1 to 5 k payoff on his loan , and purchase another Car with a warranty left or purchase an extended warranty on the used car of your choice . I hope the best for you .

 

[Anyone3505]

Damn this sucks.
It's rarely smart to modify a vehicle you don't own, can't afford to replace, and need to use. Not sure how much of that applies to you, but I hope it's just the first one and that this turns out OK. Make sure to learn from this experience so you prevent it from happening again.

 

[Paris MkVI]

This.

My take is Ford already pushed the engine close to the edge to squeeze the HP out of such a small displacement

The days of primitive electro-mechanical engine management are long-gone. Modding these already tightly spec'd, tuned, and computer-controlled engines comes with unpredictable risks.

JMHO. YMMV.

 

[Zrussian13]

Damn used coyote prices are crazy now. In early '24 You could get a new gen 3 long block straight from Ford for 5k.

 

[SCP440]

Some advice I was given many years ago by an old boy mechanic. If you want your car to go like a Ferrari go and buy a Ferrari, it will always cost your more trying to achive that and is rarely as succesful.
As has been said most modern cars are close to there limit on performance before something is going to get damaged.

 

[sk47]

Marketplace - Gen 3 Coyote Shortblock | Facebook

Hello; the link is for a Gen 3 shortblock. Might give a reference on price???

 

[robvas]

Damn used coyote prices are crazy now. In early '24 You could get a new gen 3 long block straight from Ford for 5k.

They used to be half that!

 

[Hack]

The Coyote is a complex engine with lots of expensive parts so is a sort of catch 22 when it comes to repair. My take is Ford already pushed the engine close to the edge to squeeze the HP out of such a small displacement.

I agree, especially the 2018+ is more fragile and complicated compared to the earlier Coyotes. I picked a tune from Ford Performance that Ford offers a warranty on. I know other tuners can get more power out, but I trust Ford more.

I think my advice to the OP has already been stated by several others, so I won't comment on that.

 

[engineermike]

An air leak didn't blow up this engine.

 

[Oakley]

I agree, especially the 2018+ is more fragile and complicated compared to the earlier Coyotes. I picked a tune from Ford Performance that Ford offers a warranty on. I know other tuners can get more power out, but I trust Ford more.

I think my advice to the OP has already been stated by several others, so I won't comment on that.

the thing people don't understand about tunes is TUNES DO NOT MAKE POWER.
engines make power and a tune is supposed to PROTECT the engine.

any tune that "makes more power" is probably sacrificing reliability somewhere.

 

[engineermike]

the thing people don't understand about tunes is TUNES DO NOT MAKE POWER.
engines make power and a tune is supposed to PROTECT the engine.

I think this is a good point. In my experience, many (possibly most) aftermarket tunes unnecessarily or inadvertently get rid of safety protections. And if you look at the Roush SC or FP tunes, they only change what's necessary to adapt to the new hardware and operating context.

 

[SCP440]

To tune an engine you need more air and fuel. With our engine and variable valve timing you can open the valves earlier but there gets to a point that once you have completly filled the cylinders you cant put anymore in there and surely Ford would have done there best to do that originally? The only restrictions Ford have are emissions and economy. This is what these aftermarket tunes stretch, they might fire the ignition a degree or two earlier as most people with a tune will use the best fuel.
I suspect the best with a decent tune you are going to get is an extra 5% and potentially damage your motor.

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