Think this would be a nice adder to the Ecoboost

[w3rkn]

I like the hood and the air extraction vents on the GT model. That would have been a nice addition to the Ecoboost model where the turbo could actually use the venting to keep the underhood temps down. What I think would be cool though would be to use the GT hood on the Ecoboost and leave the vent over the turbo side of the engine as it is. On the other side make the vents face forward and it could be a ram air/cold air inlet for the intake. Its location on the hood falls in just about the right spot to feed into a ducted cover for the air filter instead of the standard closed housing. Might be able to get a couple extra ponies out of the Ecobeast. That could be a nice adder to the Ecoboost Performance Package. What ya think?

These things are designed as a purpose...

Sponsored

 

[wilkinda65]

I loved my '86 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe!!

 

[Suddueth13]

All EcoBoost engines have an intercooler.

This. The SVOs and Turbo Coupes(along with Subarus, Nissans, and Mazdas) used those scoops to feed top mount intercoolers. The front mount intercoolers used on the EcoBoosts are far more efficient, so no scoops would be needed. Extractors would have to be designed in a way to be functional in more ways than just venting heat. They also need to keep debris and water away from vital components and electronics.

 

[OppoLock]

All EcoBoost engines have an intercooler.

This. The SVOs and Turbo Coupes(along with Subarus, Nissans, and Mazdas) used those scoops to feed top mount intercoolers. The front mount intercoolers used on the EcoBoosts are far more efficient, so no scoops would be needed. Extractors would have to be designed in a way to be functional in more ways than just venting heat. They also need to keep debris and water away from vital components and electronics.

I'm having a hard time thinking of a factory turbocharged car that hasn't come equipped with some type of intercooler (FMIC/TMIC/SMIC). Can't think of any. Maybe some older ones from the '70s or '80s?

 

[OppoLock]

Does the active shutter system not handle all the required cooling for the eco-boost?

Like the user below you said, those active shutters are for fuel efficiency purposes. When the engine and radiator don't need that much air intake (like cruising at moderate to higher speeds I would imagine), the shutters close to reduce drag.

 

[Suddueth13]

I'm having a hard time thinking of a factory turbocharged car that hasn't come equipped with some type of intercooler (FMIC/TMIC/SMIC). Can't think of any. Maybe some older ones from the '70s or '80s?

The early GT Turbo Mustangs were not intercooled. I'm sure there are other low hp/low boost applications that were not intercooled. I'm not sure of your point though. My point was those scoops were functional while ones added to the S550 would not be as they use far more efficient intercooler designs in the bumper.

 

[OppoLock]

The early GT Turbo Mustangs were not intercooled. I'm sure there are other low hp/low boost applications that were not intercooled. I'm not sure of your point though. My point was those scoops were functional while ones added to the S550 would not be as they use far more efficient intercooler designs in the bumper.

My point was in regards to a previous user that had a question as to whether or not the EB came with an intercooler. I figured it was assumed and couldn't think of any OEM turbo setups without one. Your post was educational, I didn't know that early turbo Stangs were sans IC.

 

[l8tebrker]

We need something like this for the 2015 model year.

http://www.steeda.com/steeda-q-series-10-12-mustang-hood-307-q2010/

Steeda's Q-series Functional Hood is the same hood used in our popular Q-series serialized cars.
Continuing in the Steeda tradition of designing parts with function, not just looks, Steeda's Q-series hood features a large functional vent strategically located based on aerodynamic design testing done in conjunction with Ford Motor Company engineers through our long established Ford technology transfer program.
The hood vent not only reduces underhood temperatures substantially, it also improves the Mustang's aerodynamic characteristics as well.
As tested by Steeda and confirmed by Steeda's racers. Steeda's hood will maintain temperatures within 10 degrees of ambient temperature versus the stock hood which can allow underhood temperatures to soar to up to 100 degrees above ambient temperature.
Our Q-series hood also features a 1/2 inch raise in height over the stock hood for a more aggressive appearance.
This hood is a direct bolt on replacement for the factory hood. Comes in a smooth gelcoat finish that is ready for basic prep and paint.
Product Benefits
Functional Aerodymanic Design
Reduces underhood heat
Direct bolt on replacement

 

[David@Steeda]

We need something like this for the 2015 model year.

http://www.steeda.com/steeda-q-series-10-12-mustang-hood-307-q2010/

Steeda's Q-series Functional Hood is the same hood used in our popular Q-series serialized cars.
Continuing in the Steeda tradition of designing parts with function, not just looks, Steeda's Q-series hood features a large functional vent strategically located based on aerodynamic design testing done in conjunction with Ford Motor Company engineers through our long established Ford technology transfer program.
The hood vent not only reduces underhood temperatures substantially, it also improves the Mustang's aerodynamic characteristics as well.
As tested by Steeda and confirmed by Steeda's racers. Steeda's hood will maintain temperatures within 10 degrees of ambient temperature versus the stock hood which can allow underhood temperatures to soar to up to 100 degrees above ambient temperature.
Our Q-series hood also features a 1/2 inch raise in height over the stock hood for a more aggressive appearance.
This hood is a direct bolt on replacement for the factory hood. Comes in a smooth gelcoat finish that is ready for basic prep and paint.
Product Benefits
Functional Aerodymanic Design
Reduces underhood heat
Direct bolt on replacement

Early on I mentioned to the team that we should carry an S550 hood, I'll keep trying!

 

[syntheticgt]

A simple short rise cowl hood can help to vent extra heat as well.

 

[l8tebrker]

It's a no brainer... as people add more HP to the EB they will need more cooling/venting to eliminate the heat. The FORD updates for 2016 have already come out and there will not be OEM vents for the EB. So there are two model years (2015 and 2016 at the least) that could use hood vents/cooling. Also the sales of the EB are way up:

"Through the month of May, Ford has sold over 56,000 Mustangs, compared to just 33,000 Chevy Camaros and 30,000 Dodge Challengers, giving the Blue Oval a sales lead for the first time since the new Camaro debuted in 2009. While there’s little doubt that the overall newness of the Mustang is helping drive sales, Ford has noted that Millennial buyers now make up 35% of Mustang sales, and in hot markets like Southern California, that number is up around 40%. In fact, SoCal Mustang sales are up a whopping 117% so far this year, with most younger buyers opting for the more fuel-efficient four-cylinder engine, rather than the thirsty 5.0 V8."

 

[dgc333]

...... On the other side make the vents face forward and it could be a ram air/cold air inlet for the intake.

The 15 Mustang GT, Ecoboost or v6 already have ram air / cold air from the factory. The grill in the drivers side corner is open and the air box has a snorkel that attaches to the core support right behind that opening.

 

[Glenn G]

Air will follow the past of least resistance. your hood scoop has nothing blocking it and is getting a ram air effect so you are basically pressurizing your engine bay with cold air, sounds good right?

Well it's not. Air from the grill needs to pass through your intercooler (if you have one) Ac condenser and radiator to properly cool your car. This is alot of resistance but air will flow into the engine compartment until the pressure + resistance = the pressure of the air your car is driving into, when you add that front facing scoop, cooling air has to fight that too to get in and the air flow to your Intercooler, condenser and radiator will be minimal as air will find it easier to go around the grill than through it.

A rear facing scoop, known as an extractor, is a wonderful thing, it turns your engine bay into a low pressure area increasing the flow through those 3 aforementioned critical cooling devices and pulling all the hot air out of the bay.


TLDR ?
Scoops are bad, that's why hardly anybody uses them and if they do it's a compromise.
Extractors are good hence why they are used way more often in performance cars

 

[l8tebrker]

Great reply Glenn. Yes we need to extract the heat and improve the flow vs. pump more air in.

 

[l8tebrker]

Two potential solutions for Ecoboost heat extraction...

Option #1.

Find a rental car company that has a 2015 Mustang GT that matches your car color. Rent the GT, swap the hood with your Ecoboost hood, drive the GT through several mud puddles and get is nice and dirty, return the car. They will never know the difference.

Option #2.

We could create a "Hood Donor" program that would connect GT owners with EcoBoost owners that would be willing to swap hoods. The challenge will be to find GT owners that are not modding their cars since they are probably not on any forums or in any clubs.

Any other ideas?

Sponsored