FRPP Handling Pack Suspension

[TorkN8R]

Has anyone installed or considering the FRPP handling Pack Suspenion?

I like the idea of the coilovers, pre-loaded fronts for easier install. The compete kit is only $1,500 with a 1" drop. I don't know the spring rate or if they are linear or progessive rate springs. The site claims a "Slightly Harsher" ride.


From the web site:

Ford Performance Racing Part's assembled handling pack includes pre-assembled struts. No spring compressor required, strut/spring assembly is ready to bolt-in! Put a little "road race" into your Mustang GT with Ford Racing's handling pack. Tuned to deliver improved handling.
Fits: 2015 Mustang GT Coupe
All components are designed to work together as a package
Lowers car approximately 1.0"
Gives a more aggressive-looking stance with a focus on handling and on track performance.
Handling Pack Includes:

Assembled Front Struts and rear shocks M-18000A-M8
Track Lowering Springs M-5300-Y
Performance Pack Upper Strut Mounts
Jounce Bumper Kit M-5570-B
Sway Bar Kit M-5490-E
Performance Pack rear toe link kit M-5972-M
Unique press-in toe link to knuckle bearings
All components available separately
Will cause slightly harsher ride compared to stock springs

NOTE: Please reference a Ford service manual for installation information and correct torque specifications. May require alignment after installation.

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[IvanCRF]

I don't know if you have seen this, but I enjoyed it as it pertains to your question.

http://powernationtv.com/episode/DM2015-11/gen-6-mustang-suspension

 

[Poppacapp]

Friend of mine was having a Ford dealer install his today. They didn't have hour rates from Ford for this yet, so he was paying by the hour and capped them at a certain amount. Needless to say, they didn't get it finished because the tech was taking too long. He said the tech told him the rear springs alone would take 2hrs each? Looks like they were scamming.

 

[Khyber]

2 hrs each on the rear? lol no. not at all...especially when the car is on a lift and ya got an impact gun

 

[Rv-Junke]

I'm SO close to going this route to fix the bounciness of the PP... I was thinking just springs, but I like the fact the Struts and Shocks are teamed on this...didn't really want to replace sway bars, but its the only way to get the shocks and struts right now...PLEASE update when your friend installs...

 

[Khyber]

you want that bounce and less body roll, then yes go lowering springs... it doesn't make the ride harsher at all. at least on the 1-1.2" drop springs and takes out the body roll

 

[Poppacapp]

2 hrs each on the rear? lol no. not at all...especially when the car is on a lift and ya got an impact gun

Yeah, he said it took him 10mins.. was easier than changing a headlight bulb. He told me the dealership was trying to tell him they have to do it like the Ford manual says... which is removing subframe or something. Idiots. I am going up there shortly to help him finish installing the front stuff. He has the rear done. Will report back tonight on how he things the difference is... He may have to get an alignment first though.

 

[Poppacapp]

So, I helped my buddy out today trying to finish getting his Handling pack installed on his car. Ran into some issues(don't you always?), that cost too much time to finish. The strut to spindle bolts turned out to be a pain to get out(no, we didn't have nor use heat).

Couple notes:

The Handling kit does not come with instructions. Looking through the Ford service manual pages he had a printout of, the bolts are to be discarded and new ones used on most of the suspension parts. The spindle/knuckle to Strut bolts call for 184 ft-lb torque.

The kit did not come with new bolts. He is determining if he will reuse, or order new bolts Monday.

We were able to get the struts and sway bar out of the car, and get the Handling Pack front sway bar in place. He finished the rear himself yesterday, and unfortunately, I do not have pictures of that.

Here are a few pictures taken to compare the Performance Pack pieces to the Handling pack parts:


Struts:

Doesn't look like there will be any additional drop in the front end over the Performance pack

Couple pictures of the difference between the Performance pack sway bar, and the Handling Pack sway bar:

And a picture of his head.. because.. just because:

Sorry I wasn't able to get more detailed install pictures.. as I mentioned, the dealership tried to screw him over on the install. He is supposed to contact Ford Racing to discuss warranty issues with them, and if they will still warranty the suspension on the car.


I will update in this thread after the install is finished, and he gets the car aligned. driving impressions etc.


EDIT: Forgot to mention.. Ford Racing is supposed to send him install instructions... They are still rough draft.. but he should have them monday. It appears he is one of the first few to get this kit. New product guinea pig problems.

 

[Blk2015GT]

Ford says 1 time use bolts for the suspension, but I'm pretty sure most of the shops doing installs are not using new hardware and they're just fine. It can't hurt, but I don't know if they are really mandatory. Maybe PM Steeda since they make these products themselves too and do installs; I would doubt they are using all new hardware on their installs. I think a lot of the 1 time use stuff is CYA for liability reasons for that 1/1,000,000 chance, not that it's mandatory in every case.

Ford Racing won't warranty anything unless it's installed by a dealership and you have a receipt for the install.

 

[Poppacapp]

Ford says 1 time use bolts for the suspension, but I'm pretty sure most of the shops doing installs are not using new hardware and they're just fine. It can't hurt, but I don't know if they are really mandatory. Maybe PM Steeda since they make these products themselves too and do installs; I would doubt they are using all new hardware on their installs. I think a lot of the 1 time use stuff is CYA for liability reasons for that 1/1,000,000 chance, not that it's mandatory in every case.

Ford Racing won't warranty anything unless it's installed by a dealership and you have a receipt for the install.

He is finding out more details Monday. Also Ford Racing is aware of the dealershop issues he had. He was in contact with them, and since it was Friday afternoon late, they told him to call next week to discuss warranty items. I am sure they will work with him on it. Especially since they do not even have information out to the dealers on installation of this kit. The dealership was going by their service manual, and it called for removing the whole subframe just to do the front end work.

They quoted him 2 hrs per side on the rear springs because the manual wanted them to remove much more than was needed to change the springs.

I will have more info next week. I think Ford Racing will do him right.

 

[Rv-Junke]

WOW...Thank you for posting this. Some VERY valuable pictures and insight to the suspension...The comparison photos are amazing. The sway bar looks identical except for an extra mounting hole which I am sure is what makes it stiffer. Also without knowing the valve'ing in the Strut I would swear they are the same just powder coated blue. What will be really telling is does it remove the bouncing.

However, the one time use for the bolts is something that if true we should all be looking at.

Can't wait to see more...THANK YOU AGAIN!!!!!!

Added thoughts...

The Steeda Sway Bars look MUCH thicker...anyone know the size of those compared to the FRPP? Also, Not sure looking at the Struts in the un-loaded position indicates drop. I BELIEVE it is the spring compression that will determine ride height. I am no suspension specialist, so maybe someone can chime in on this...I am TORN personally what to do to fix my bouncing suspension. I was leaning this way, up until this post...LOL!

 

[SC_Sport_Pilot]

WOW...Thank you for posting this. Some VERY valuable pictures and insight to the suspension...The comparison photos are amazing. The sway bar looks identical except for an extra mounting hole which I am sure is what makes it stiffer. Also without knowing the valve'ing in the Strut I would swear they are the same just powder coated blue. What will be really telling is does it remove the bouncing.

However, the one time use for the bolts is something that if true we should all be looking at.

Can't wait to see more...THANK YOU AGAIN!!!!!!

Added thoughts...

The Steeda Sway Bars look MUCH thicker...anyone know the size of those compared to the FRPP? Also, Not sure looking at the Struts in the un-loaded position indicates drop. I BELIEVE it is the spring compression that will determine ride height. I am no suspension specialist, so maybe someone can chime in on this...I am TORN personally what to do to fix my bouncing suspension. I was leaning this way, up until this post...LOL!

RV-Junkie,

Here is what I can tell you from my PP to Steeda install. The sizes are
below:
GT Performance Pack Sway Bars:
Front: 1.25"
Rear: .875"

Steeda Adjustable Sway Bars:
Front: 1.375"
Rear: 1.125"

This has really helped reduce the role. Now with this said I have no idea
how this will compare to the FRPP sway bars. My install post is here in the
Suspension forum.

 

[Rv-Junke]

RV-Junkie,

Here is what I can tell you from my PP to Steeda install. The sizes are
below:
GT Performance Pack Sway Bars:
Front: 1.25"
Rear: .875"

Steeda Adjustable Sway Bars:
Front: 1.375"
Rear: 1.125"

This has really helped reduce the role. Now with this said I have no idea
how this will compare to the FRPP sway bars. My install post is here in the
Suspension forum.

Thanks, I will look at your post now...

 

[Poppacapp]

WOW...Thank you for posting this. Some VERY valuable pictures and insight to the suspension...The comparison photos are amazing. The sway bar looks identical except for an extra mounting hole which I am sure is what makes it stiffer. Also without knowing the valve'ing in the Strut I would swear they are the same just powder coated blue. What will be really telling is does it remove the bouncing.

However, the one time use for the bolts is something that if true we should all be looking at.

Can't wait to see more...THANK YOU AGAIN!!!!!!

Added thoughts...

The Steeda Sway Bars look MUCH thicker...anyone know the size of those compared to the FRPP? Also, Not sure looking at the Struts in the un-loaded position indicates drop. I BELIEVE it is the spring compression that will determine ride height. I am no suspension specialist, so maybe someone can chime in on this...I am TORN personally what to do to fix my bouncing suspension. I was leaning this way, up until this post...LOL!

The pictures might be a little deceiving then. The Handling pack sway bar is slightly thicker than the PP one. I probably should have pulled a set of calipers out. Also, just by looking with the eyes, the coil spring on the Handling pack setup looks "slightly" thicker than the PP.. I can't say for sure.. I just gave them a quick glance over. We were cussing from the Strut bolts still. :lol:

 

[Rv-Junke]

Your fired as a reviewer...LOL...When and if you can, please let me know (PM if better...)

The pictures might be a little deceiving then. The Handling pack sway bar is slightly thicker than the PP one. I probably should have pulled a set of calipers out. Also, just by looking with the eyes, the coil spring on the Handling pack setup looks "slightly" thicker than the PP.. I can't say for sure.. I just gave them a quick glance over. We were cussing from the Strut bolts still. :lol:

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