Stock Rod Limit

[TheZman]

There have been quite a few bolt on GTs busting them too. The difference right now seems to be auto vs manual. Bama pulled a 1.59 60 with their EB on a DR, but it has an auto.

Well the thing with auto's as far as straight line drag racing is you can hold the brake in and spool up the turbo easier.. But i just read a Magazine while standing in wall mart that in the Ecoboost test run they did the manual and auto ran the same time but after the 1/4 the manual was much quicker by 1.8 sec.. Almost 2 full seconds quicker.. But regardless i know for a fact when i test drove the manual standard EcoBoost and then the Performance Pack manual EcoBoost back to back the PP was much more responsive. Honestly My car is going to be set up to be a fast street car not a drag queen so im not to worried about running DR's.. Good set of sticky street tires when my stock ones go and ill be good. As far as the GT's busting them too im guessing they all have the same half shafts from the factory.

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[mbreinin]

I don't see the half-shafts breaking on an auto EB car. You just can't leave hard enough. You may be able to break them with a manual car, if you really hammer it on the wrong tire (i.e. a drag radial) at the track with good prep. Maybe.

 

[Impulsed7]

Love how a rod breaking thread (probably not the actual limit) turned into a half shaft breaking thread...

 

[5TAR5CR3AM]

It's because there is zero moderation on this forum. Things get so off topic here it's a joke.

 

[Tamadrummer88]

It's because there is zero moderation on this forum. Things get so off topic here it's a joke.

Have you seen the SW exhaust thread in the 5.0 forum? It went from being a thread to discuss the SW exhaust to bashing it because of build quality issues and fake power numbers.

Because of no moderation of that thread, the vendor didnt post in it anymore.


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[greg hazlett]

Have you seen the SW exhaust thread in the 5.0 forum? It went from being a thread to discuss the SW exhaust to bashing it because of build quality issues and fake power numbers.

Because of no moderation of that thread, the vendor didnt post in it anymore.


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Looked for it, who is the vendor? Beefcake?

 

[Tamadrummer88]

Looked for it, who is the vendor? Beefcake?

Stainless Works.


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[Biffosaur]

Have you seen the SW exhaust thread in the 5.0 forum? It went from being a thread to discuss the SW exhaust to bashing it because of build quality issues and fake power numbers.

Because of no moderation of that thread, the vendor didnt post in it anymore.


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Were there fake power numbers? I mean...if you post fake stuff to try to make a sale...I have little sympathy for you when it bites you.

That said, if there wasn't any solid proof then there should have been serious moderation.

I'm sure the moderation will improve as the forum progresses :shrug:

 

[Barrel]

Were there fake power numbers? I mean...if you post fake stuff to try to make a sale...I have little sympathy for you when it bites you.

That said, if there wasn't any solid proof then there should have been serious moderation.

I'm sure the moderation will improve as the forum progresses :shrug:

Since it was my car that threw the thread off track, I'll just say that my car dyno'ed stock at 390, then with the full SW exhaust, tune, and JLT CAI I made 420, and so far no SW car has made over 430 while Kooks and ARH have plenty of cars running around at 450-460. Questions were asked, Beefcake got a little defensive, and SW disappeared. I've dropped it but others haven't. I stopped caring since I'm going FI in a few weeks. Beefcake did a side-by-side test of headers and came away with no net gain for one or the other. Case closed.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming...

 

[TheZman]

And now this thread turned into an exhaust thread.. Lol

 

[Shanghai Dan]

And now this thread turned into an exhaust thread.. Lol

Exhaust...

Evacuation of chambers...

Evacuation...

Yep, proof that every thread about exhaust turns to shit.

 

[BGolden]

Here are the photos of the block and rod. Again I'll open it up for questions as long as your not attacking the tune or us.

After what I have seen from tearing this block down we will not be pushing customers cars past the 400 ft/lb of torque on stock block. I will be looking to stay in the 380 range for a customer. I still stand behind my statement that over 400 ft/lb of torque is a matter of time before a rod lets go and I do not plan to risk someones motor.

Also I ask that we can keep this thread on the development of the 2.3 Ecoboost engine. Not 5.0 headers or exhaust. There is alot of information we can learn from each other if we act like adults.

 

[mbreinin]

I admire your candor, BGolden. Not many tuners would come clean with a failure like this.

Mike

 

[cosmo]

Yup, that's a busted rod haha. Thanks for letting us know how it went. I'll definitely be swapping my internals if I go big turbo.

 

[BGolden]

Yep this was the pile of Ford parts to assemble a short block. There are some other aftermarket goodies as well not show yet. What everyone isn't realizing is that 400 ft/lbs in this motor would be equivalent to 800 ft/lbs in a 4.6. Its a lot of stress.

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