LT1 Vs 5.0 Opinions

[Hack]

What If the lt1 was 4 valve though..

Is the LT1 the engine that blew up not once but twice on Corvettes that GM gave to Car and Driver to test?

It really doesn't matter to me how many valves, the weight, the hp or anything else if the engine doesn't live past 40,000 miles.

I don't see any contest at all between these two engines. One blows up, and the other works great. How much more info do you need?

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[Brent302]

You guys lol so much uneducated hate go drive your cars and put down your Assault Keyboards lol. My god you all waste so much energy in here.

 

[Falc'man]

Im curious what people are thinking about the next gen camero and it having the LT1 and how it compares to the 5.0. It's most likely going to have more hp and torque and better mpg. I know this is all speculation but I think its very likely.

Based off the current outputs the Camaro SS will have an advantage if it's within 150lbs of the Mustang GT.

 

[Grimace427]

You only have to modify Ford heads (porting and polishing or valve jobs) when you are looking to make big horsepower numbers. I am speaking of looking north of 1000 plus horsepower.

If you want 1,000+hp leave the stock heads alone and add boost.

 

[Grimace427]

What If the lt1 was 4 valve though..

Ford made the 'what if's' a reality when they asked what if the Coyote was built as a no-compromise high-RPM screamer and came up with the Voodoo.

 

[Falc'man]

If you want 1,000+hp leave the stock heads alone and add boost.

How much can the stock block handle these days?

 

[Grimace427]

How much can the stock block handle these days?

You'll find dyno queens running 1,000+hp on otherwise stock engines. For serious drag use I'd max it at 650rwhp. For forged bottom ends you're looking at maybe 850ish until you start to push the cylinder walls into the water jacket. I'm still not certain if the FRPP Sportsman block or other aftermarket blocks are the real deal when it comes to big power. MMR and Livernois(IIRC) have sleeved blocks for big power but that's pretty much all I know about them.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Just because the engine can run a quarter mile without exploding doesn't really mean it can handle the power.

How much power could you realistically push through and still have the car last at least 100k miles? I think that's a more relevant question for the vast majority of owners.

 

[IGJoe2192]

If you want 1,000+hp leave the stock heads alone and add boost.

I know the stock heads are easily capable of running that sort of power, I was trying to explain that if you wanted to run much more than that, you may want to touch up the heads to make it easier.

 

[Grimace427]

I know the stock heads are easily capable of running that sort of power, I was trying to explain that if you wanted to run much more than that, you may want to touch up the heads to make it easier.

I think the 1,000+hp part of what you said was the part I disagree with. For those levels boost is the only way to go. Now if you said 500rwhp naturally aspirated then I would absolutely agree everything needs to be addressed inside the engine to hit that mark. The upgrades to the 2015 heads aren't proven yet in terms of a max-effort N/A build. For '11-14 there were several 500+rwhp builds that had ported heads and custom cams to get there.

 

[1320']

Throwing boost into a motor is a cheap and dirty way of making big power.

Making big, high RPM power in a n/a motor is a totally different beast. If you ever get the chance to see a Top Fuel or A/gas motor torn down..it looks like a tractor motor.

Compare that with a ProStock or NASCAR motor..it's like a science experiment on the starship Enterprise.

 

[Hack]

Just because the engine can run a quarter mile without exploding doesn't really mean it can handle the power.

How much power could you realistically push through and still have the car last at least 100k miles? I think that's a more relevant question for the vast majority of owners.

The vast majority won't spend the money for FI and void the warranty. For the few who want the power and have the money and don't care about the warranty, they aren't going to keep the car for 100,000 miles. I disagree and say your question is not relevant at all.

I saw a test where they made roughly 1,000 hp at the wheels on the dyno with everything stock. They just added the FI components and didn't touch anything else.

 

[nametoshowothers]

Throwing boost into a motor is a cheap and dirty way of making big power.

Making big, high RPM power in a n/a motor is a totally different beast. If you ever get the chance to see a Top Fuel or A/gas motor torn down..it looks like a tractor motor.

Compare that with a ProStock or NASCAR motor..it's like a science experiment on the starship Enterprise.

They all have Pistons, rod, heads and block. Not really that different. Tractor engines are usually built much stronger than any sports car anyways.

An industrial engine making a 1000 hp that will run 24 x 7 is larger than the entire car. All car engines are light duty for relatively short run times. 100,000 miles is short run time.

 

[IGJoe2192]

Ha... 1000hp industrial engines... How about the 3000hp ones I used to work with.
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[DivineStrike]

I liked the LS motors for what they can make NA. I really wish the Coyote could reach 600whp NA :(

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