2015 PP test drive - where's the traction?!

[slythetove]

My test drives of a GT PP and a GT with 20" wheel option (auto) both had summer tires - and it was 36 degrees and rain sleeting when I drove them.

I thought the car did amazingly well considering conditions. I put them in Sport, and I was able to stomp the loud pedal fairly aggressively, predictably control the sliding, and the stability control inspired absolute confidence on top of that. I was really impressed how well the car behaved when I basically set it up to fail.

I'm not sure why some people don't get how high torque rear wheel drive cars work, but this one works very very well.

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[Sasuketr]

Dealers are taking a huge risk letting people drive the GT PP's in winter, but what can they do right? The customer wants to try the GT PP and potential dollars are in concern!

 

[15GTBEN]

Dealers are taking a huge risk letting people drive the GT PP's in winter, but what can they do right? The customer wants to try the GT PP and potential dollars are in concern!

Like the PP is more of a risk than the standard GT...

 

[Sasuketr]

Hell yeah! 3.73 gears Pirelli Pzero's below 45 degrees :doh: Besides whoever test drives that car doesn't go easy on it. They have to feel the WOT!

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Like the PP is more of a risk than the standard GT...

PP comes on summer tires (so does the 20" wheel option). Everything else gets all-seasons. Much higher risk to be driving summer tires in cold / snow.

 

[2c5s]

Good god, some of you act like these are 1,000 hp monsters. It's a modern car with modern tires..... How about the driver mod before you cry about the lack of traction.

 

[15GTBEN]

Hell yeah! 3.73 gears Pirelli Pzero's below 45 degrees :doh: Besides whoever test drives that car doesn't go easy on it. They have to feel the WOT!

3.73's are an option in the non PP GT's as well and it's not like they turn the car into a raging animal compared to the other gear options, lol! There isn't much traction with the 3.31's and 3.55's in 1st gear either. Once out of first gear there isn't much of a difference other than a narrower powerband. I've owned all gear options in between my 12brembo, 14 and current 5.0's.

 

[TeddysStang]

I just had a comically bad experience with a test drive of a '15 GT PP.

The car simply could not get traction. Are these Pirelli tires just that bad in ~35 degree temperatures? On the highway on-ramp, the rear-end skidded around and just had no bite. In 2nd and 3rd gear, even with moderate throttle, I was still feeling the end move around. Very disconcerting.

Is this an isolated incident or are you guys experiencing the same things in colder but dry weather?

I have been running the Michelin Pilot Super Sports in a variety of cars over the last 2 years and none behaved this badly, even in colder temps.

I live in NC where the temp around this time of year range from the mid 40s to mid 50s. I have also had a hard time getting traction, especially when I need to get on the gas a little. I admit being a little frustrated not being able to get on it and see what it really can do, but oh well. Thankfully the warmer weather is around the corner. I've had my car for 2 months and only have 900 miles on it because of the colder weather. Once it warms up, I can put more miles on it with confidence. Also I've had Michelin summer tires on my 2006 Acura TL when I first brought it and had no issues at all in the cold. I even drive it back from Allentown, PA one year during a snow storm, and had no traction issues at all.

 

[Sasuketr]

3.73's are an option in the non PP GT's as well and it's not like they turn the car into a raging animal compared to the other gear options, lol! There isn't much traction with the 3.31's and 3.55's in 1st gear either. Once out of first gear there isn't much of a difference other than a narrower powerband. I've owned all gear options in between my 12brembo, 14 and current 5.0's.

When did 3.73 become an option? I thought it was only 3.55! I don't know you but my second gear on WOT looses traction and 3rd gear chirps crazy on high rpm shifts And yes she is a Raged Monster attacking every square feet of the road. I call her the EX WiFE

 

[Lagometer]

Not sticking the PP with summer compounds would void the need for the rest of the kit it comes with, essentially. There's no point in those big stoppers when you neuter the car with crappy A/S tires.

The only other option up North is to park the car for 6-8 months when the mornings are too cold to take the Mustang, so you don't void the actual warranty, rather than some non-specific need that wouldn't hold up in court after an accident.

 

[OppoLock]

The only other option up North is to park the car for 6-8 months when the mornings are too cold to take the Mustang, so you don't void the actual warranty, rather than some non-specific need that wouldn't hold up in court after an accident.

I should've used a better word than void, but what I was saying is that it's pointless to have a package with performance doo-dads and additional bracing that helps to raise the performance envelope only to saddle all of it with severely compromised rubber.

All-seasons make perfect sense for the volume models. They're just average tires that provide convenience above all else. If anyone wants a performance package, they should understand that it would come with performance-oriented tires (i.e. nothing in the A/S category).

 

[Nanashii]

I just had a comically bad experience with a test drive of a '15 GT PP.

The car simply could not get traction. Are these Pirelli tires just that bad in ~35 degree temperatures? On the highway on-ramp, the rear-end skidded around and just had no bite. In 2nd and 3rd gear, even with moderate throttle, I was still feeling the end move around. Very disconcerting.

Is this an isolated incident or are you guys experiencing the same things in colder but dry weather?

I have been running the Michelin Pilot Super Sports in a variety of cars over the last 2 years and none behaved this badly, even in colder temps.

After they warm up, you can WOT in 3rd with minimal traction issues. Above 40 degrees you can WOT in 2nd.

 

[Highwayman]

I should've used a better word than void, but what I was saying is that it's pointless to have a package with performance doo-dads and additional bracing that helps to raise the performance envelope only to saddle all of it with severely compromised rubber.

All-seasons make perfect sense for the volume models. If anyone wants a performance package, they should understand that it would come with performance-oriented tires (i.e. nothing in the A/S category).

This...

Only here have I seen no many complain about buying a track package and complain about foul weather driving in it....

If your bad weather out weighs the good, maybe one of these makes more sense... Or understanding the track package car youre paying the extra for has compromises. Get what you get and that's about it...

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