pistol carry

[K4fxd]

Locking it in the glove box, console or trunk is not securing it.

Yes it is.

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[ORRadtech]

Yes it is.

I guess, but only marginally. Any kid with a pry bar can pop the glass and make short work of the glove box or console. The trunk is even worse as most cars now have a trunk pop button, they don't even have to break into it.
A lock box bolted to the vehicle or even one with a teather cable is much more of a deterant. Having said that, I will admit, if someone is determined enough, there's nothing completely theft proof.

 

[K4fxd]

I guess, but only marginally. Any kid with a pry bar can pop the glass and make short work of the glove box or console.

If nothing is in view they have no reason to "pop the glass"

It's not my fault if a criminal breaks into my car or house or whatever. If they do I have insurance. When they get caught with my stolen property the courts should deal with them properly.

 

[SheepDog]

What you say is true. It is also very limited.
As the man said, best case is to always have it on your person. I don't, even though I should, but it is always in easy reach. I readily admit that won't help in every circumstance but that's what I choose.
However, and this is where your statement falters, if you drive a vehicle and carry you should have some means of securing the firearm if you're forced to leave it in the vehicle. Locking it in the glove box, console or trunk is not securing it. Some sort of secured to the vehicle lock box is needed. In other words, a lock box is not for convenience while driving but to secure it while you cannot have it on you.

Being that there really isnt any room in the vehicle (Aside from in the trunk I guess) to install a lock box, the glove box is fine. If someone smashes the window out of my car to steal it, and then breaks open the glove box to get the gun, they would be able to break into the lock box too.

I would never leave the pistol in the magnetic mount in plain sight while the vehicle is unattended. Having it in a holster while seated is uncomfortable and combersome. whether hip or apendix carry, go sit in your car with your seatbelt on and tell me how convenient it is to draw your weapon - you can't.

Concealed carry, or open carry for that matter is a full time commitment. You need to be prepaired not only to use deadly force, but for the ramifications of making that decision- especially in Liberal controlled states. Car jackings or road rage incidents are the most common situation where you may have to defend yourself. Beyond that, carrying the weapon into stores, or other public places is now a situation where you either plan on a future altercation to save your own life, or the lives of others and that can be a slippery slope.

In Colorado anyway, the vehicle is an extension of your domicile so you don't need a CCP to have the gun in the car, and open carry is allowed in most counties outside of Denver County.

 

[ORRadtech]

Being that there really isnt any room in the vehicle (Aside from in the trunk I guess) to install a lock box, the glove box is fine. If someone smashes the window out of my car to steal it, and then breaks open the glove box to get the gun, they would be able to break into the lock box too.

I would never leave the pistol in the magnetic mount in plain sight while the vehicle is unattended. Having it in a holster while seated is uncomfortable and combersome. whether hip or apendix carry, go sit in your car with your seatbelt on and tell me how convenient it is to draw your weapon - you can't.

Concealed carry, or open carry for that matter is a full time commitment. You need to be prepaired not only to use deadly force, but for the ramifications of making that decision- especially in Liberal controlled states. Car jackings or road rage incidents are the most common situation where you may have to defend yourself. Beyond that, carrying the weapon into stores, or other public places is now a situation where you either plan on a future altercation to save your own life, or the lives of others and that can be a slippery slope.

The Mustang isn't that difficult to secure a gun in a lockbox. Something like this would work. Loop the cable around a seat frame and tuck it under the seat. Or in the trunk around something permanent.
Sure, if someone wants something bad enough they will get it. But I want to at least be able to tell the LEO that it wasn't just sitting in the glove box, console or trunk like so manyothers that are stolen. I made an effort to keep it safe.

 

[K4fxd]

A set of bolt cutters makes quick work of that.

I don't care what LE thinks. A gun in a glove box in a locked car is plenty. If the "gov" doesn't want guns in locked cars they shouldn't restrict places where I can legally carry.

 

[speedknot]

I'm going to take note of you guys and make sure I never piss you off.
I love this thread, but being from Long Island takes me out of the conversation.

 

[Buldawg76]

Fortunately, I live in a free state that allows open carry, permitless concealed carry (CCP is only for traveling out of state) and carrying into a business that prohibits weapons is not a criminal offense in that LEOs can only ask you to leave the business or if they or the business really want to be jerks you can be trespassed from property. Only federal and state court/municipal building are off limits for concealed carry. So, I always have mine on me except if going for a medical procedure where I would have to remove the weapon from clothes.

My state also does not require you to inform LEO that you have a weapon on your person, but I keep my CCP and license together in my wallet so the LEO will be given both at the same time.

I also use the glove box for safe storage with out of sight hopefully keeping a thief from targeting my car, have not had an issue in 50 years of doing so, but also avoid big cities and high crime states.

BD

 

[Ozcraig]

Lots of non-American residents shaking our heads while reading this thread. What a sad place you have there.

 

[K4fxd]

Lots of non-American residents shaking our heads while reading this thread. What a sad place you have there.

I do not think it is sad. My right as a human is to ba able to defend myself. I also have the right to use the best tool for the job. It's not just people I have to defend against. there are bears, mountain lions, venomous snakes and other dangerous wild life.

I think it is a sad place where you live and are forbidden to have firearms.

 

[Buldawg76]

Lots of non-American residents shaking our heads while reading this thread. What a sad place you have there.

You just wish you had our freedoms, Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of happiness are inalienable rights that no man shall deny. A gun is merely a tool that when misused can be deadly, guns don't kill people, people kill people.

Punish the people not the tool.

BD

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Take a breath people. This aint an NRA rally. The OP asked a pretty straight forward question. A discussion on gun rights wasn't part of it.

 

[K4fxd]

A discussion on gun rights wasn't part of it.

Until it was.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

Until it was.

Until you made it one. Take it to another forum.

 

[K4fxd]

Until you made it one. Take it to another forum.

It wasn't me it was another and I answered. Don't like it dont read the thread.

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