Mustang Dark Horse "market adjustments"

[illtal]

The GT is just a glorified Ecoboost with twin 4 bangers…….

Not with out a twinny kit...

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[WildHorse]

How in Gods name can a 500 hp car be pulling the same time as a 760 hp supercharged car

It's not. MT is in Fords pocket.. They ain't telling you the full story .
Back in the day Manufactures would give magazines 'ringer cars'.

"Its 86-foot 60-0-mph stop edges out the 2016 Dodge Viper ACR by 1 foot."

Complete BS.

That viper has better brakes and weighs 3413 pounds. This DH is 3990.

 

[The Demon]

It's not. MT is in Fords pocket.. They ain't telling you the full story .
Back in the day Manufactures would give magazines 'ringer cars'.

"Its 86-foot 60-0-mph stop edges out the 2016 Dodge Viper ACR by 1 foot."

Complete BS.

That viper has better brakes and weighs 3413 pounds. This DH is 3990.

I agree with you 100%. I just wanted to see a reaction of how it’s even possible.

 

[Dave2013M3]

Lol alright, but I'm sure you know this.... it's NOT limited production and this isn't as nearly sought after especially after an ADM in this price class.

M3 and M4 is in this range, and is a better car. Just not what we like, V8.

Makes the M2 a bargain!!!

 

[DopamineQuest]

Makes the M2 a bargain!!!

Problem is that car is dogshit ugly

 

[RagmopInKona]

If Ford was smart, they stop orders to dealers that publish and caught selling with ATM'S.
And the CEO is already not happy with dealers that do this crap.
Ford can't sell direct, but the CEO if he wants to stop this, once and for all, could open/buy a dealership and sell these in demand models witth no ATM'S and make it know to the buying public you can order your vehicle and pick it up with no ATM'S at x y z dealeship.
My opinion is anyone paying ATM'S on a mass produced car are morons.

 

[young at heart]

If Ford was smart, they stop orders to dealers that publish and caught selling with ATM'S.
And the CEO is already not happy with dealers that do this crap.
Ford can't sell direct, but the CEO if he wants to stop this, once and for all, could open/buy a dealership and sell these in demand models witth no ATM'S and make it know to the buying public you can order your vehicle and pick it up with no ATM'S at x y z dealeship.
My opinion is anyone paying ATM'S on a mass produced car are morons.

They‘re plenty smart but laws, both Federal and individual state laws prevent the manufacturer/wholesaler from dictating actual retail selling prices. Little thing called price fixing and all that. In fact, if Ford did anything at all to “encourage” it’s dealers to not sell over sticker, say cutting allocations to those who do, it would be interpreted by the courts as exactly the same thing.

So those who think Ford could stop it all if they really wanted to are very naive about the reality of the situation. It’s been tried and it won’t fly. Don’t ask how I know.

 

[RagmopInKona]

They‘re plenty smart but laws, both Federal and individual state laws prevent the manufacturer/wholesaler from dictating actual retail selling prices. Little thing called price fixing and all that. In fact, if Ford did anything at all to “encourage” it’s dealers to not sell over sticker, say cutting allocations to those who do, it would be interpreted by the courts as exactly the same thing.

So those who think Ford could stop it all if they really wanted to are very naive about the reality of the situation. It’s been tried and it won’t fly. Don’t ask how I know.

No law that states, they can't set up a side company to own a dealership(s) and sell at MSRP or less. Or offer "a" dealership incentives to sell at msrp in every state.
Then blast the internet with promotions of these dealers selling at msrp.
CEO of Ford; sir we will hand you a Ford franchise all we ask from you is to sell at or below the factory msrp of all models. We will foot the Franchise fee and the cost of building the dealership building.
BOOM. fixed, They didn't price fix, but now have given the customer a place they can buy/order from and not get raped.

 

[Postal Bob]

When I was looking for my GT350, many places wanted an ADM up to $10K. I refused to buy from any dealer tacking on an ADM. Heck, I was even bothered paying msrp. But I kept looking, and a few months later bought my car for $2500 under msrp. The hell with any place trying to get more from you than what the car is worth..

 

[Shifting_Gears]

I’m glad I got my GT in 2018, under 6k mi (it’s a 16). Paid under $30k and 2.9 APR. I can add leather seats and do a touchscreen upgrade if I want, but the biggest thing for me was the performance package and being a stick car.

I saw Dark Horse expo car a few days ago. Beautiful car, but I do not like the decklid design on these cars. Point being, I’m content with my car and being able to sink way less money into it and have an equally capable car. The 15-17 I feel is going to be the sought after S550 due to only a 3 MY run.

 

[illtal]

When I was looking for my GT350, many places wanted an ADM up to $10K. I refused to buy from any dealer tacking on an ADM. Heck, I was even bothered paying msrp. But I kept looking, and a few months later bought my car for $2500 under msrp. The hell with any place trying to get more from you than what the car is worth..

Problem is that the cars aren't even worth what the MSRP says. Drive a car off the lot at you lose 10-15k right off the bat. This is part of the reason I tell people never put a down payment on a car because if it gets wrecked or stolen you're shit out of luck. Unless you've got real good insurance that will pay for the loan your fucked.

 

[Germansheperd]

If Ford was smart, they stop orders to dealers that publish and caught selling with ATM'S.
And the CEO is already not happy with dealers that do this crap.
Ford can't sell direct, but the CEO if he wants to stop this, once and for all, could open/buy a dealership and sell these in demand models witth no ATM'S and make it know to the buying public you can order your vehicle and pick it up with no ATM'S at x y z dealeship.
My opinion is anyone paying ATM'S on a mass produced car are morons.

You really have no clue how the car business works in a Capitalist economy that is evident in your rants.

 

[Germansheperd]

Problem is that the cars aren't even worth what the MSRP says. Drive a car off the lot at you lose 10-15k right off the bat. This is part of the reason I tell people never put a down payment on a car because if it gets wrecked or stolen you're shit out of luck. Unless you've got real good insurance that will pay for the loan your fucked.

I will disagree with this wholeheartedly for the MY 20-22 as I made a ton of money buying new cars and flipping them. See the car in my avatar? 50% of that car was FREE from buying and flipping new cars.

 

[illtal]

I will disagree with this wholeheartedly for the MY 20-22 as I made a ton of money buying new cars and flipping them. See the car in my avatar? 50% of that car was FREE from buying and flipping new cars.

That's a special situation when there was a shortage of cars.... can't say that you didn't because I know people who did the same thing.

Today that might not be the case.

 

[MAGS1]

what the car is worth..

And maybe to others the car is worth the sticker price plus $X ADM. Value/worth is determined by each individual.

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