Electric for everyone - the impossible dream

[Rapid Red]

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A lot of neighbors and people in this area are driving Teslas now. I'm sure there are many other EVs, too... I just don't recognize them. EVs are a huge hit in the suburbs. But, it will be a long time, if ever, before they are common in an urban setting.

Oh, yea plugging in some EV day and night are real motivator right there. Hours to get a full charge, 15 min to fill my tank. Damn can hardly wait LMAO

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[Genxer]

I'm not reading all that. I will say, the biggest problem with electric cars is weight. And not the whole, batteries weigh a shit-ton. But that as a gas tank runs down, the fuel leaves the car, and the car loses weight, making it more efficient. Its a huge factory when flying airplanes, and why often times planes continue to gain elevation even at cruising altitude.

With electric cars, that weight is ALWAYS there. Which, is great if you want a consistent car with consistent characteristics. However, current battery weights are just far too much with current technology.

I am all for subsidies, to a certain extent, on electric cars. It incentivizes development and breakthroughs in tech. And all I want is the fastest car possible, that can turn both left and right, and stop. Or, the truck with the most towing capacity for long distances. We, as a country, subsidize so many things in order to foster development and pushing the limits, that EV should be no different.

Also, electric cars are harder on tires, which need to be replaced more often. Another factor from all that weight is wear and tear on roads. More maintenance will be required to keep them in good shape. Imagine if big rigs get outfitted with electric, how much heavier will those monsters be ? (if long haul trucks could even be fitted in a useful way)

 

[Brian_S550]

Is this an S550 Mustang forum or an angry ignorant boomer forum to circlejerk about all the things they don’t want to understand?

 

[BlkMach10510]

electric for cities and hybrids for everywhere else I think will probably be the result after they realize electric is not going to work because of our infrastructure that hasn't been updated since around the 1960's I would say.

 

[Hoofer]

I'm not reading all that. I will say, the biggest problem with electric cars is weight. And not the whole, batteries weigh a shit-ton. But that as a gas tank runs down, the fuel leaves the car, and the car loses weight, making it more efficient. Its a huge factory when flying airplanes, and why often times planes continue to gain elevation even at cruising altitude.

With electric cars, that weight is ALWAYS there. Which, is great if you want a consistent car with consistent characteristics. However, current battery weights are just far too much with current technology.

I am all for subsidies, to a certain extent, on electric cars. It incentivizes development and breakthroughs in tech. And all I want is the fastest car possible, that can turn both left and right, and stop. Or, the truck with the most towing capacity for long distances. We, as a country, subsidize so many things in order to foster development and pushing the limits, that EV should be no different.

How many gas stations has the federal or your state government subsidized?
I'll wait.

 

[WItoTX]

How many gas stations has the federal or your state government subsidized?
I'll wait.

I am not trying to be rude here. Hopefully it doesn't come across that way, and apologize in advance if it does.

If you get tax breaks, you are being subsidized. Did you get tax money back last year? Subsidized. Do you get a child tax credit? Subsidized. Write off your mortgage interest? Subsidized. Small businesses (like gas stations) get to write off certain expenses. They are subsidized.

We can use whatever words we want to describe something, but it's all a subsidy.

I am just okay with drawing the line around EV's (To a certain extent). Just like I am okay with paying for national forests, parks, and other public property open to all.

 

[Rapid Red]

Is this an S550 Mustang forum or an angry ignorant boomer forum to circlejerk about all the things they don’t want to understand?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BOOMER

>>>>>>>For got to plug in his car

 

[Torched10]

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Oh, yea plugging in some EV day and night are real motivator right there. Hours to get a full charge, 15 min to fill my tank. Damn can hardly wait LMAO

Just read an article saying if 50% were ev the power grid will need to increase 30 to 50% costing 3 to 7trillion bucks.and that doesnt count costs for charging equipment.tried to paste article but couldn't get pdf file to copy.and the power companies will have to raise bills over time to recoup that money.

 

[Rapid Red]

Just read an article saying if 50% were ev the power grid will need to increase 30 to 50% costing 3 to 7trillion bucks.and that doesnt count costs for charging equipment.tried to paste article but couldn't get pdf file to copy.and the power companies will have to raise bills over time to recoup that money.

Totally agree, the weak link in the chain it that exactly.

 

[WItoTX]

Just read an article saying if 50% were ev the power grid will need to increase 30 to 50% costing 3 to 7trillion bucks.and that doesnt count costs for charging equipment.tried to paste article but couldn't get pdf file to copy.and the power companies will have to raise bills over time to recoup that money.

I work for a company right now and we are building out the lines. Tons of 500 kV the next 10 years.

 

[Bikeman315]

How many gas stations has the federal or your state government subsidized?
I'll wait.

The question is how many oil companies has the government given billions and billions of dollars too.

A conservative estimate from Oil Change International puts the U.S. total at around $20.5 billion annually, including $14.7 billion in federal subsidiesand $5.8 billion in state-level incentives.

 

[K4fxd]

A conservative estimate from Oil Change International puts the U.S. total at around $20.5 billion annually, including $14.7 billion in federal subsidiesand $5.8 billion in state-level incentives.

What are the incentives and or subsidies?

 

[2016S550]

Exactly how do Electric Companies provide electricity? If not Nuclear or Hydro then what are they using to generate their resource that allows me to power my toaster oven? Just curious, not a Boomer but closer to that generation than a Gen Alpha…

Never mind the answer, a Google search provides the answer…Fossil Fuels. So maybe a non Boomer can explain to me how we are saving energy if we have to burn more fossil fuels to power the Electric Grid that will allow me to charge my car? It just sounds counter productive and also created mining or precious metals for battery production and generates an issue with battery disposal. Guess i’m just an old guy who doesn’t understand.

 

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[2016S550]

Got it, this all reminds me off a statistics course or how people use numbers to prove their point based on their intent. From a non field educated person I just don’t understand how places like California will support 80% electrification if their current Grid cannot support the current demand. Natural Gas is a Fossil Fuel as well so again, I’m just old and slow.

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