Never Normal Mode

[Bikeman315]

To keep the drivetrain warranty, doesn't a Ford dealer have to install it?

Actually Ford Performance only warranties the parts of their kit. They will honor the warranty so long as it’s installed by a dealer or an ASE certified mechanic. The powertrain warranty remains with Ford.

https://performanceparts.ford.com/download/PDFS/fpp-warranty.pdf

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[Justgonna send it]

Exactly. Save the money and when u feel comfortable get a good custom tune. Ford has ways of denying their own work when they do something wrong

 

[Bikeman315]

If a warranty is that important then I wouldn’t do nothing at all. Because if They’ve never heard of it how can They install it correct.

It comes with instructions and quite frankly it‘s not that hard. Any good mechanic can do it.

 

[Mr. Met]

When did the FP kits stop coming with a powertrain warranty? I know they did when I had the power pack 2 installed on my 2015.

So around $1k for the FP hardware and tune, how much labor do they charge for the install?

I paid $300 for the kit to be installed on my 2015.

It looks like the Roush kits still come with a 3yr/36k mile powertrain warranty.

Either way, if you go to the Roush site you can find one of their authorized Ford dealers. They should be more experienced with installing Roush/FP parts.

 

[JohnnyGT]

It comes with instructions and quite frankly it‘s not that hard. Any good mechanic can do it.

Shit, I'm an amateur weekend mechanic at best. Took less than an hour to install. I spent as much time with the software side of it.

 

[NeedForGreen]

It comes with instructions and quite frankly it‘s not that hard. Any good mechanic can do it.

You would think with instructions they would install correctly, but not always the case. My dealer installed the adapter plate upside down. I could have installed everything myself, but paid them for the warranty and they still couldn't do it right per what was on paper. They didn't even torque the bolts right.

 

[ScottyRyan2018]

, Hell I might as well be driving a Ford Fairmont.

Jeezus Dude, my granny had a 4 cylinder Fairmont wagon...it could not get out of its own way. I think they timed the 0 to 60 in minutes, not seconds.

 

[MIDLYFE]

Jeezus Dude, my granny had a 4 cylinder Fairmont wagon...it could not get out of its own way. I think they timed the 0 to 60 in minutes, not seconds.

Ford Fairmont vs Ford Zephyr, who wins?

 

[ScottyRyan2018]

Ford Fairmont vs Ford Zephyr, who wins?

Whichever is pushed off the highest cliff!

 

[MIDLYFE]

Whichever is pushed off the highest cliff!

perfect

 

[dhborden]

Or if you want to keep your warranty intact this could make sense.
https://www.levittownfordparts.com/sku/m-9603-m8b.html

By the way it is pretty well known that unless you go with E85 the Gen 3 motors do not realize the gains the Gen 2 motors do.

I put this on my 2015 GT and it gave the low end real punch and increased the red line, all with full warranty support. It's part of what led me to the Mach 1 -- knowing the Bulletized Coyote was going to be a blast!

 

[young at heart]

When did the FP kits stop coming with a powertrain warranty? I know they did when I had the power pack 2 installed on my 2015.

I paid $300 for the kit to be installed on my 2015.

It looks like the Roush kits still come with a 3yr/36k mile powertrain warranty.

Either way, if you go to the Roush site you can find one of their authorized Ford dealers. They should be more experienced with installing Roush/FP parts.

Please excuse my ignorance but is the Roush kit in fact just the FP kit but with a different part #?

And if not, is one better than the other?

 

[Mr. Met]

Please excuse my ignorance but is the Roush kit in fact just the FP kit but with a different part #?

And if not, is one better than the other?

No, they are different. I would say the Roush kit is a bit better. It has a sealed intake, claims to have a greater HP increase and is a bit cheaper. Though note it appears the FP kit does come with the 3/36 warranty again.

 

[pyrophilus]

All three mustangs I owned were 6MT, and first two were EB.

While my '19 GTPP was in body shop, I got a '21 EB A10 premium rental.

I was excited to try the A10 as people raved about how great it is...

I was soooooo disappointed when I drove that car, and I kept asking myself if my '15 and '17 EB's were THIS unresponsive...

I tried to do the paddle shift and the shifts were lazy and not any crisper than my wife's '21 MDX. Even with gear selector in sport mode, it was kinda lame...

Then I put the mode selector to sport, and then was like, "ahhhhhh! I get it now"

The shifts were some of the fastest responses I have noticed on manumatics. In some of them j felt like it shifted as my finger was coming up from the paddle flick.

On the 6MT, I don't really know what changes on the car when I put car not in normal (except slow response in gas paddle in snow/wet mode and how my active exhaust is tied to the modes), but I guess if you own an A10 cR, I can't imagine driving it on normal and being okay with it.

That being said, I get it. In the normal mode, the car behaves like any other automatic car. I guess it's a good thing as it can get non-mustang enthusiasts buying them.

 

[Hillsndale]

"Normal" mode should have been labeled Eco mode, because that seems more appropriate for the shift schedule. I don't view the Mustang programming of the A10 as having a "normal" mode.

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