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It just seems like it’s all such weird computer assisted stuff. Does anyone else notice that? I mean I don’t mind it, just taking getting used to!!
Get the $20 Steeda clutch assist spring.

I nearly sold my Mustang after 2k miles thanks to the terrible clutch engagement; I installed the new spring and here we are 5.5 years later totally satisfied with the car.

As for hill assist and the auto-throttle—I love them. No more e-brake shenanigans on big hills and I can inch along in traffic without hitting the gas; very cool.

— Mike
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Get the $20 Steeda clutch assist spring.

I nearly sold my Mustang after 2k miles thanks to the terrible clutch engagement; I installed the new spring and here we are 5.5 years later totally satisfied with the car.

— Mike
i’m not necessarily complaining, i think the engagement is great, and everyone says there’s no feel but i’ve never once stalled this thing or had a bad start TBH. plus i go from driving an 07 tacoma which its just a heavy ass clutch you really can’t feel anything in, to this thing which is a breeze.
 

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Get the $20 Steeda clutch assist spring.

I nearly sold my Mustang after 2k miles thanks to the terrible clutch engagement; I installed the new spring and here we are 5.5 years later totally satisfied with the car.

As for hill assist and the auto-throttle—I love them. No more e-brake shenanigans on big hills and I can inch along in traffic without hitting the gas; very cool.

— Mike
I do enjoy the difference the Steeda spring makes, drove about a year and a half without it from my 2019-2020 GT and have had it about a year and a half installed now and would not go back. Not a huge difference, but noticeable enough it's worth it if you don't like the stock feel so much.
 

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In my experience (remember I’m in a euro so there may be slight differences with the programming), the anti stall is exactly that, it will only make its presence known if it thinks you are going to stall.

If I drive it as I was taught, it doesn’t do anything and remains hidden in the background :like:

I can’t think of a situation where I would want to purposely do a ‘stall assist’ ?

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really? mine always engages as i slowly let off the clutch, so if i’m in traffic, or if i’m reverse. it always does it.
Yeah that's kind of my point though, it thinks you are going to stall so it engages.

If enough gas is being applied so the revs don't drop significantly, the anti stall wont kick in as it has no need to do so.

I was taught to drive in an era of carburettors and (remember I'm from the UK lol) low power engines, I think the car I was taught in was around 50hp :giggle: i.e. both the technology and engine power didn't have a 'save your arse' anti stall function. If you stalled it, your mates took the piss and the cars behind started to honk - that was a quick way of learning lol.

Modern cars have anti stall, but it remains hidden with a traditional clutch / throttle relationship.

I do have the Steeda spring but for me it wasn't one of the night / day modifications that some describe. The biggest difference for me was the extra 'feel' when reversing up the drive. For the cost and ease of fitment it was defo worth it, but I wouldn't describe it as a necessity :like:

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Lose the clutch spring altogether.

The day I picked up my '15 was like I had never driven an manual before, and all my Mustangs have been manuals. Weirdest clutch engagement I've ever experienced. I popped out the spring when I got the car home and haven't had a complaint for that since.
 

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I'm liking the rev match and hill assist features. I haven't driven a stick on a regular basis since I sold my 70 Torino Cobra in 1990. I drove that on the street until the snow fell for 10 years. The pressure plate and clutch in the Cobra was a beast and took a lot of effort to depress. Also tough in stop and go traffic. I was nervous when I ordered the GT/CS with the MT82. I didn't know what to expect and took a leap of faith that it would be fine.
The new technology in the S550 is great. I stalled out once since picking up the stang in August....leaving the dealer! :cwl: I was nervous as hell not knowing how hard it would be to drive a stick again. This stick is a pleasure to drive.
 

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No, that's not the auto rev match. It's an anti-stall feature. It works with the ARM off as well.
It also helps maintain a constant idle speed while things like air conditioning and/or increased alternator load cycle on and off.

Carbureted manuals. Now there's something where you truly need to balance clutch and throttle to get them moving. There's no automatic roll in of the throttle to help. As soon as the clutch grabs rpm drops and it doesn't come back up by itself.
 
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It also helps maintain a constant idle speed while things like air conditioning and/or increased alternator load cycle on and off.

Carbureted manuals. Now there's something where you truly need to balance clutch and throttle to get them moving. There's no automatic roll in of the throttle to help. As soon as the clutch grabs rpm drops and it doesn't come back up by itself.
I feel so young. 34 and never drove a carbureted vehicle lol. I remember my dad having them but it was before I drove.
 

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we also had to contend with manual chokes!
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I feel so young. 34 and never drove a carbureted vehicle lol. I remember my dad having them but it was before I drove.
 

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Omg..my old (manual) GM had that, too! :like:
yep...no fancy electric choke for me :cwl:
There's also the added bonus of popping the clutch on a manual trans if the starter died. Did that many a time :cwl: Don't think the S550 would like that!
 

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I feel so young. 34 and never drove a carbureted vehicle lol. I remember my dad having them but it was before I drove.
That's funny. I remember carbs, vacuum windshield wipers, vent windows, floorboard hi-beam switches, and I even owned a 3 on the tree.

Reminds me of the time one of my kids asked me what video games I played when I was young. Took a lot of self control to not choke him.
 

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That's funny. I remember carbs, vacuum windshield wipers, vent windows, floorboard hi-beam switches, and I even owned a 3 on the tree.

Reminds me of the time one of my kids asked me what video games I played when I was young. Took a lot of self control to not choke him.
you must be ancient! :crackup: like me....
 

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yep...no fancy electric choke for me :cwl:
There's also the added bonus of popping the clutch on a manual trans if the starter died. Did that many a time :cwl: Don't think the S550 would like that!
Ran into a deep puddle once with the 66 Biscayne. Some of us probably remember that in those days even a mist of water could short out the ignition and the engine would die. Rather than get my feet wet I nursed it a few feet to a less deep part of the puddle by cranking the starter and slipping the clutch. Hell, I was driving an EV before I even knew what they were.
 

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The steeda clutch spring made it feel like shit for me in previous cars so I’ve kept the stock one in. The engagement point is weird but idk if that has to do with the new clutch for 2018+, the rev match feature, or both possibly.
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