Horrible to see this

[Zelek]

I can't tell you how many stoplights I've been at where someone didn't go after about 5-7 seconds after it went green from messing around on their phone. It's getting really bad.

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[Garfy]

The same weak standard for trucks as in seats in passenger cars for rear ended protection. They all collapse and severely injure front seaters. It all boils down to money to strengthen vs cheaper to pay out lawsuit.

As for me, I would be opting for getting the safety option of automatic stop, collision avoidance, brake assistance (or whatever they are called).

The Mustangs do have a safety option for collision avoidance as part of the adaptive cruise control, but since the operator can reduce the distance to minimum and driving at excessive speed won't allow the system to brake soon enough to slow the vehicle down will all contribute to that kind of catastrophic results. The manual even states that while the system will apply the brakes, it may not be able to avoid a collision, though it would be at a lower speed than if it didn't intervene.

 

[Garfy]

Shutting the screen off would take care of this. Push back will be from those saying they are on a train, bus or a passenger in a car.

GPS should take care of train and bus, car too damn bad.

I think the key is if you're going to be driving that fast, you must keep focused on your driving and what's going on around you. Most of this kind of tragedy occurs because of too many variables contributing to the result, and guaranteed that driver error contributed (whether it be excessive speed, being under the influence of something, inattention, distraction, etc.)

 

[nrc]

Semi trailer rear bumper should have been reenforced to prevent car to crash underneath. Unfortunate but will be a handsome payout for a good lawyer.

Ignoring for the moment that it's the responsibility of the following driver not to crash into the vehicle ahead. Ignoring for the moment the fact that the truck was on the shoulder. Ignoring for the moment the fact that the driver is believed to have have been impaired.

When you talk about "reenforcing" you're talking about putting an immovable steel wall in the road. This is what it takes to safely absorb the impact of a vehicle at speed. And you think that should be on every truck on the road.

 

[LSchicago]

Semi trailer rear bumper should have been reenforced to prevent car to crash underneath. Unfortunate but will be a handsome payout for a good lawyer.

I have seen ICC bumpers built poorly. 30 years ago I worked at a trucking company, and driver came back with a brand new bar bent under from backing into a dock one time. Needless to say, the boss made the truck body place redo it with double the thickness and more braces.

 

[Longitude Zero]

Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[I Bleed Ford Blue]

Back in the mid nineties (94 I believe) I flattened a 78 malibu wagon with a 48' flatbed with 45,000 lbs on the trailer and never felt a thing. I pulled the trailer right up over the top of the car and turned it into a pancake. I was making a tight right hand turn and the malibu wagon was parked too close to the corner and when I tried to make the turn, the trailer walked right up on the roof and flattened it. I was never ticketed, but the owner of the malibu was for illegal parking.

Anyway, my point is the truck driver may have never even noticed he was rear ended if he had enough weight in the trailer.

Also I live in Ohio and I see trucks parked on the side of the road all the time now. Don't know if it's legal for them to be parked like that. They used to pull off on an on ramp to catch a few winks, I still see that, but more and more I see them at random places along the highways.

 

[ORRadtech]

Ignoring for the moment that it's the responsibility of the following driver not to crash into the vehicle ahead. Ignoring for the moment the fact that the truck was on the shoulder. Ignoring for the moment the fact that the driver is believed to have have been impaired.

When you talk about "reenforcing" you're talking about putting an immovable steel wall in the road. This is what it takes to safely absorb the impact of a vehicle at speed. And you think that should be on every truck on the road.

Perhaps something similar but smaller mounted behind the rear wheels. It just has to keep the car from going under the trailer.

 

[GT Pony]

Perhaps something similar but smaller mounted behind the rear wheels. It just has to keep the car from going under the trailer.

What's shown in the video in post #69 works, yet the trucking industry can't get on-board.

 

[ICU812]

It’s hard to swerve going that fast. Roads or highways being dark, not paying attention, and medical issues at times make it hard unfortunately. That mustang crash is pretty brutal and the Cali video is scary AF.

Or , the billy badd @$$ , brake checking someone and them having to swerve .
Fools . pull this crap all the time on a highway, and even at 4am many places have enough traffic that two tools pulling this crap can get others killed.

 

[HoosierDaddy]

Or , the billy badd @$$ , brake checking someone and them having to swerve .
Fools . pull this crap all the time on a highway, and even at 4am many places have enough traffic that two tools pulling this crap can get others killed.

99% of the time, I leave a 2 second gap PLUS another 2 seconds if the driver behind me didn't. Haven't needed to swerve in decades.

Of course I didn't start the day I got my license, but the system works. My only at fault accident in over 55 years driving was when I was 16 and following someone making a left turn on arrow who full stopped mid turn. I think $100 damage. Had my share of teenage near misses. Have had a few non-fault accidents when my best dodging wasn't enough and once someone managed to flip their van and slide on its side into a parking lot where my '78 WS6 was parked. Dented a quarter panel. After that I parked 2 seconds from surrounding streets

 

[ICU812]

99% of the time, I leave a 2 second gap PLUS another 2 seconds if the driver behind me didn't. Haven't needed to swerve in decades.

Of course I didn't start the day I got my license, but the system works. My only at fault accident in over 55 years driving was when I was 16 and following someone making a left turn on arrow who full stopped mid turn. I think $100 damage. Had my share of teenage near misses. Have had a few non-fault accidents when my best dodging wasn't enough and once someone managed to flip their van and slide on its side into a parking lot where my '78 WS6 was parked. Dented a quarter panel. After that I parked 2 seconds from surrounding streets

Today, you have insurance fraud yoyo's that will drive around you, pull in your lane using a blinker mind you and then slam on the brakes HARD. Most are not expecting it because the vehicle driver used the turn signal and merged in just fine and nothing in front of them to cause them to need to brake hard.
They used to brake check those asleep in the fast lane strolling along holding everyone up. but now they are pulling this on those in the middle lanes also, even IF you are going 10 over or more in the middle lane(s).
This is why every vehicle I own has a 2 channel dash camera, and I have one that plugs into the power port for when I am in a rental.
People because of all the safety crap think they are in a bubble and are willing to cause a wreck with no ducks given.

 

[Strokerswild]

Yea, the touch screen dashes are almost as bad as the phone.

As bad, possibly worse. I HATE the touchscreens in both my Mustang and F150. They're idiotic.

Back when I ordered my '13 Wrangler, I loaded it up with every option except the touchscreen sound system and controls. I miss the simplicity, and that I could operate everything without looking at the damn dash.

 

[K4fxd]

I had a BMW for about a month. That touch screen dash almost got me killed a few times. The seats were not comfortable after about 50 miles.

 

[ICU812]

As bad, possibly worse. I HATE the touchscreens in both my Mustang and F150. They're idiotic.

Back when I ordered my '13 Wrangler, I loaded it up with every option except the touchscreen sound system and controls. I miss the simplicity, and that I could operate everything without looking at the damn dash.

I don't mind them, but I could do without them.
Not a fan of the button lay out for the heat/ac either, The old slide controls worked great, was easy to use, and change even with gloves on. now it is buttons that anything bigger than driving gloves you can't use the buttons, winter gloves, work gloves forget it.
I do wish they angle the center stack touch screen toward the driver.

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