M-9602-M 2018-19 MUSTANG FORD PERFORMANCE MAGNERIDE HANDLING PACK

[TeeLew]

Steeda told me they've installed hundreds on lowering kits and never installed any VDM software.

At the very least, the suspension sensors should be zeroed at static ride height.

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[TicTocTach]

My understanding is that the GT350R has special "narrow slot" shocks & struts, the other MR units are the same. The narrow slots provide more control for a given voltage, and should provide more control over the high-rate R springs.

That said, I have 2019 350R springs in my EBPP+MR, and the ride & response is TOTALLY OK for a daily driver. Normal mode is softer than Sport+ or Track, but the delta between the modes is less noticeable now. I have not autoX'd the car yet, and there may be something strange that pops up then... but I won't know until I get out there. In the meantime, it's good. I also have a GT350 controller that I will plug in one of these days just to check. I don't think the drive modes are exactly the same between PP1+MR and GT350/R, so I hope it is plug and play.

 

[TeeLew]

So I've dug through some old emails, and what I said earlier wasn't correct. Eco-to-GT350 all have the same shocks/struts. The GT350R is the one that has different internals.

The Magneride dampers have a 'base' damping force and then the additional force is determined by the input current of the controller. Here are some damper curves which show the differences between the standard and GT350R damper at constant input currents. It might be a little misleading, because M.R. dampers are rarely being fed a constant current, but it will at least give some sort of idea on the forces being used. In general, I find the standard damper to be fairly low on force levels and the 350R to be more in the range which we'd want to see on track.

 

[TicTocTach]

Makes me wonder if the handling pack software update is more of a voltage change or if they seriously futzed with the mapping, too? And how tolerant would the R shocks/struts be in a non-R chassis & controller? Would love to play with that stuff if I had plenty of time + $$$...

 

[Matthewstorm]

The thing that kills me is there's no way to purchase the VDM software by itself.

 

[Schwerin]

The thing that kills me is there's no way to purchase the VDM software by itself.

Closest you can do it order a PPL2 Controller. LR3V-18B066-AA is the only part number Ive found for one but i cant find that in any parts books.

Shelby GT350 is KR3C-18B066-AA


EDIT: Speaking of I just grabbed a GT350 controller off of ebay for $190, not bad for a $900 new part.

 

[Matthewstorm]

I found it on ebay. But, what would I do with it in my 2021?

 

[Schwerin]

I found it on ebay. But, what would I do with it in my 2021?

Swap it out with your current one. Looks like just 2-3 bolts hold it in place.

Not sure if it will throw any errors though. I figure for $190 shipped its worth spending the time/money to at least test out if they are swappable. If not I'll just re-list it on ebay.

 

[Matthewstorm]

But how is it any different from what I have?

 

[Schwerin]

But how is it any different from what I have?

it should have the same software as the PPL2, Mach1/GT350/Ford Performance tune.

 

[TeeLew]

Before I bought my car, I talked to Billy Johnson about his development work with Ford. He said he did the driving for the Shelby track tuning, but not for any version of Mustang. He was pleased with how the car turned out and commented about how it was interesting to tune an MR car as opposed to one with passive dampers.

I agree with him on tuning MR dampers. You can do some cool stuff, but it's also pretty easy to get lost because it's hard to know how many tuning factors are in play at any one instant. At least with a passive damper, it's easy to know "You Are Here". That's not obvious on an MR setup.

In talking with an OEM guy I found the DSC software (which is reasonably complex), has about 25% of the tuning tools of what they use. It's no surprise there is not a consumer version.

 

[Cobrakit]

So is the KR3C-18B066-AA, plug and play on a magneride GT car? No initialization required? All current driving modes supported? Other than stiffer settings, what other benefits are there?

 

[Schwerin]

So is the KR3C-18B066-AA, plug and play on a magneride GT car? No initialization required? All current driving modes supported? Other than stiffer settings, what other benefits are there?

Till I have mine in hand I'm not sure anyone knows. I don't see any reason it shouldn't be though. The device should be the exact same in every car. Just the actual tune on it should be different. The tune on it really is all the benefits. It's more tuned for a performance spring/swaybar and track use.

 

[Cobrakit]

Thanks, keep us informed.

 

[TicTocTach]

Till I have mine in hand I'm not sure anyone knows. I don't see any reason it shouldn't be though. The device should be the exact same in every car. Just the actual tune on it should be different. The tune on it really is all the benefits. It's more tuned for a performance spring/swaybar and track use.

The main difference I see is in the drive modes - I don't think the Shelby has as many drive modes, but as long as the controller is getting fed the right input it should be fine. I need to buckle down and plug mine in as well - I picked up a 2018 GT350 unit a while ago, but missed out on the 2020 PP2 that was on the Bay when I bought my sway bars.

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