18 manifold ported vs unported with boost

[WildHorse]

I'm not sure what you think that proves. Nobody said that stock manifolds do not perform well. So your point is moot. Now if someone is running in the 7s then that is a testament to a lot of different factors on the car and a ported manifold would likely be unnecessary. But for a street car with boost, if the owner wanted a good bump in power and acceleration, then a ported manifold would help. See, there is a huge difference between an all out 7 second race car and a street car pushing some boost. Also, why does every debate turn into someone talking about 7 second this and 8 second that? You do realize that any car running those speeds, the results are attributable to the entire car and all parts working together right? You know they aren't running 7s and the main reason is because the manifold is unported right?

I don't think you understand boosting modern engines. Where's the restriction on stock coyotes ? You really think 1000 / 1100 / 1200 RWH FI STOCK ie: zero porting coyotes rolling out there today have any significant restriction whatsoever ? These engines aren't 60's 327 with ported camel heads that barely flow 220 cfm. Or even AFR's that flow 250 cfm. IF you're NA, that's a different story. 9000 rpm & big cams will need help. Show me one instance of a forced induction 9 second coyote that benefited from porting in any substantial way, or any engine making just 1/2lb more boost with porting. I'll tell yah : ZERO. There's no need. Ported/non ported there's a max amount of boost these engines will handle, and no amount of porting will help. It's been proven over and over. 7/8 second cars prove over and over porting isn't necessary. Just ask around.

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[4V Mayhem]

I don't think you understand boosting modern engines. Where's the restriction on stock coyotes ? You really think 1000 / 1100 / 1200 RWH FI STOCK ie: zero porting coyotes rolling out there today have any significant restriction whatsoever ? These engines aren't 60's 327 with ported camel heads that barely flow 220 cfm. Or even AFR's that flow 250 cfm. IF you're NA, that's a different story. 9000 rpm & big cams will need help. Show me one instance of a forced induction 9 second coyote that benefited from porting in any substantial way, or any engine making just 1/2lb more boost with porting. I'll tell yah : ZERO. There's no need. Ported/non ported there's a max amount of boost these engines will handle, and no amount of porting will help. It's been proven over and over. 7/8 second cars prove over and over porting isn't necessary. Just ask around.

There is so much misinformation in your comment. I don't even really care. We're not building 7 sec cars here. And since there are 3 7 second Mustangs with stock unported manifolds, how many actually are ported? How many stock unported manifold cars are running faster than 7 seconds?So again, your point is moot. You do not have enough details to say that hands down an unported manifold is better. All you know is that 3 of them have unported manifolds which means nothing. For normal every day street Mustangs with boost thru a centrifugal system or naturally aspirated, those of us who want a slight boost in HP and performance can get a ported manifold and it will do the trick. NOBODY, absolutely NOBODY, is talking about 7 second cars except for you. Now if you want to build a 7 second race car, then the recipe will be entirely different. What about any of this are you struggling to understand?

 

[WildHorse]

There is so much misinformation in your comment. I don't even really care. We're not building 7 sec cars here. And since there are 3 7 second Mustangs with stock unported manifolds, how many actually are ported? How many stock unported manifold cars are running faster than 7 seconds?So again, your point is moot. You do not have enough details to say that hands down an unported manifold is better. All you know is that 3 of them have unported manifolds which means nothing. For normal every day street Mustangs with boost thru a centrifugal system or naturally aspirated, those of us who want a slight boost in HP and performance can get a ported manifold and it will do the trick. NOBODY, absolutely NOBODY, is talking about 7 second cars except for you. Now if you want to build a 7 second race car, then the recipe will be entirely different. What about any of this are you struggling to understand?

Show me a 10 SECOND boosted coyote that benefited from a ported intake. POINT being if it was a restriction at 600 wheel, no way in hell will you make 1000 wheel. Density Altitude / temps / humidity has a much larger effect than some ported intake on a COYOTE. 20 years experience here. Porting everything from 2bbl iron manifolds w/ a single holley 500 cfm 2bbl making 420 hp @ 7500 rpm for 3/8 mile dirt racing class to my buddies LSX intake on his na BBC. With flow #'s. I mean you don't even need a tune revision for a ported intake, nor larger injectors on MAF or MAP vehicles ffs. That should tell ya something right there. But hey, you want it, more power to ya. Dido if you find a good deal on a ported IM.

 

[4V Mayhem]

Show me a 10 SECOND boosted coyote that benefited from a ported intake. POINT being if it was a restriction at 600 wheel, no way in hell will you make 1000 wheel. Density Altitude / temps / humidity has a much larger effect than some ported intake on a COYOTE. 20 years experience here. Porting everything from 2bbl iron manifolds w/ a single holley 500 cfm 2bbl making 420 hp @ 7500 rpm for 3/8 mile dirt racing class to my buddies LSX intake on his na BBC. With flow #'s. I mean you don't even need a tune revision for a ported intake, nor larger injectors on MAF or MAP vehicles ffs. That should tell ya something right there. But hey, you want it, more power to ya. Dido if you find a good deal on a ported IM.

So you went from 7 and 8 sec cars to 9 sec cars and now you're talking about 10 sec cars. Ok so I'll just go take a survey at the track and ask every Mustang owner for a list of their mods. Do you not see how ridiculous your argument sounds? Once again, nobody is talking about gains at the track my guy. If someone wants to build a 10, 9, 8, or 7 second Mustang, then there are plenty of ways that it can be done. I could do it completely different than you. And most of that would come down to the launch/traction anyway. FWIW, there are also 10 sec GTs that are NA. So would you also argue that forced induction isn't necessary since people are doing it without boost? We are talking about street driven Mustangs and giving them a boost in power and performance. What are you not understanding?

 

[WildHorse]

What are you not understanding?

Your logic. You're going to gain next to nothing with a ported IM on a boosted 10 sec , 8 sec whatever car. That's just facts. The biggest restriction you'll ever see is on a single turbo car, but that boils down to the exhaust. Spend ur $$ elsewhere, like LT's. And FWIW, NA cars are in the 9.90s / 9.80s/ 9.70's, and streetable. Steeda's 9 second NA monster just did the tail of the dragon, no issues whatsoever on a drag tire setup.

 

[SolarFlare]

Wildhorse is a YDBT live show racer. That’s where he gets his info. Lol

 

[WildHorse]

Wildhorse is a YDBT live show racer. That’s where he gets his info. Lol

Good thing I don't give a flying f*ck what you think then eh ?

 

[SolarFlare]

Ufff Sandy Mcsandy pants lmao

 

[SolarFlare]

I seen you asking questions and acting like a groupie on the show lol

 

[WildHorse]

I seen you asking questions and acting like a groupie on the show lol

V-good. I make comments, and usually don't ask questions on his show. You'll noticed Alex agrees with me like 99% of the time as well. Called knowledge bud.

 

[SolarFlare]

V-good. I make comments, and usually don't ask questions on his show. You'll noticed Alex agrees with me like 99% of the time as well. Called knowledge bud.

Nah, all you groupies are very agreeable, you say shit he said 5 min ago so he reads it and says “yes wildhorse, exactly” and that tickles you in the crotch.

 

[80FoxCoupe]

I don't think you understand boosting modern engines. Where's the restriction on stock coyotes ? You really think 1000 / 1100 / 1200 RWH FI STOCK ie: zero porting coyotes rolling out there today have any significant restriction whatsoever ? These engines aren't 60's 327 with ported camel heads that barely flow 220 cfm. Or even AFR's that flow 250 cfm. IF you're NA, that's a different story. 9000 rpm & big cams will need help. Show me one instance of a forced induction 9 second coyote that benefited from porting in any substantial way, or any engine making just 1/2lb more boost with porting. I'll tell yah : ZERO. There's no need. Ported/non ported there's a max amount of boost these engines will handle, and no amount of porting will help. It's been proven over and over. 7/8 second cars prove over and over porting isn't necessary. Just ask around.

LOL

 

[WildHorse]

Nah, all you groupies are very agreeable, you say shit he said 5 min ago so he reads it and says “yes wildhorse, exactly” and that tickles you in the crotch.

Substituting your own reality ? V-good. Anyways, just block me. Like I did to that clown 80fox

 

[SolarFlare]

Substituting your own reality ? V-good. Anyways, just block me. Like I did to that clown 80fox

why would I? I love talking to groupies.

 

[SolarFlare]

LOL

can you tell how many 7sec cars he’s built? At least 30-40...in his own mind.

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