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I second this... I’ve done a lot of “oil analysis research” and Motorcraft 5w50 is not at the top or the bottom of these analyses but is near the top and performs exceptionally well for an underrated oil. I call it “underrated” because most look over it to put a “high performance” oil in these cars for 95% street use. It’s like protecting your home with a Navy Seal issue, close quarters Sig 556 SBR with full tac furniture and a peeper site when a Mossberg 500 pump will do just as well and without the added cost.
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Actually, Motorcraft 5w50 isn't bad. I do oil analysis after each track weekend and the viscosity holds up with no shearing. I use it and will continue to do so for many reasons to include warranty. Most importantly, the oil is good.
Exactly! Motorcraft engine oils and gear lubes are excellent.
 

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Absolutely correct. I’m a realist but also a rebel of sorts.
BTW I’m worth more than Ford right now ;-)
You're worth more than Ford? Care to adopt me?
 
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You're worth more than Ford? Care to adopt me?
With the financial position I understand Ford is in right now, you are as well. Very tongue in cheek comment on my part. Just having fun.
Care to start a gun thread or did someone already go there?
BTW...Trip wires only work once. Set ‘em all off then wait for the guy with the Mossberg to show himself. ANYTHING, I mean ANYTHING can be breached with just one man watching the fort.
 

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I second this... I’ve done a lot of “oil analysis research” and Motorcraft 5w50 is not at the top or the bottom of these analyses but is near the top and performs exceptionally well for an underrated oil. I call it “underrated” because most look over it to put a “high performance” oil in these cars for 95% street use. It’s like protecting your home with a Navy Seal issue, close quarters Sig 556 SBR with full tac furniture and a peeper site when a Mossberg 500 pump will do just as well and without the added cost.
I prefer this for home defense.
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Unfortunately Ford is a large corporation and you are just an individual. Unless you have deep pockets and are willing to go through litigation, the Magnuson-Moss Act that everyone likes to quote in these types of threads is not worth the paper it is printed on. A perfect example of this is the experience of a relatively prominent Youtuber that had her motor let go at the track. Ford denied her warranty claim because she was tuned and had an aftermarket intake. Ford didn't have to PROVE that the tune caused the failure, they just denied the warranty claim. I'm sure if she wanted to she could try to challenge that in Federal court but you can see how most people would not go through that endeavour.

Now granted using an oil spec that is not specifically Ford "approved" probably won't matter, but you never know and the motor in this thing costs tens of thousands of dollars. If your motor lets go and you have no official service history because you do maintenance yourself, as most of us probably do, then Ford would be well within its rights to have you prove that you maintained the car properly. If your motor lets go and you can produce receipts for the oil and filters you bought but the oil spec is not Ford approved, then it is not a big leap to assume they might use that against you. Warranty is just a different type of insurance; the point is to do everything possible to not pay out.
I agree with you but a tune and aftermarket maintenance parts are not even close to the same. Its like getting your warranty voided because you didn't use an OEM air filter.

Theres two specs you need to meet, the viscosity, and Fords spec for low speed pre ignition. Its listed in the manual.
 

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I prefer this for home defense.
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Nice rig. Reminds me of my KSG with Magpul flip sights and surefire firestick.

I’ve been contemplating a quick acquisition for it but haven’t seen one I like yet.
 

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...Theres two specs you need to meet, the viscosity, and Fords spec for low speed pre ignition. Its listed in the manual.
You're half right. Viscosity and API SN yes, but neither the GT500 nor the GT350 has an LSPI spec. WSS-M2C931-C is the spec for the 5w50 in these cars and it aligns largely (but not exactly) with API SN.

LSPI doesn't come into the spec until WSS-M2C931-D, which aligns with API SN Plus. So far, Ford hasn't called out the D spec oil in anything.
 

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You're half right. Viscosity and API SN yes, but neither the GT500 nor the GT350 has an LSPI spec. WSS-M2C931-C is the spec for the 5w50 in these cars and it aligns largely (but not exactly) with API SN.

LSPI doesn't come into the spec until WSS-M2C931-D, which aligns with API SN Plus. So far, Ford hasn't called out the D spec oil in anything.
Good info. I had to double check, but on my car its the B1 spec that is required. Not sure if that's new or what, but I thought it related to LSPI. If it's just equivalent to SN then that makes sense.
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